The Trump Search Warrant

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Trixare4kids, Aug 12, 2022.

  1. DentalFloss

    DentalFloss Well-Known Member

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    So all the documents, and knick-knacks, and letters, copies of emails, and even furniture that you can find in literally any Presidential Library constitutes a felony? I've only been to one (LBJs, because I was in Austin on a business trip with some time to kill before my flight home) even had all of his Oval Office furniture in a mock-up Oval, probably the closest I'll ever come to setting foot in the real one.
     
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    Well, unless someone credible can come forward to say he didn't, then his word will stand.
     
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    Yeah. It won’t.
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Beyond a reasonable doubt. There is that.
     
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  5. Trixare4kids

    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

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    It wasn't on this particular forum, but I have too. So sick of the FBI boys who cried wolf theatrics.
     
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    Kinda dumb to have them in your home when you spent a whole election cycle chanting “lock her up”. Just saying
     
  7. Trixare4kids

    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

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    Maybe in a banana republic, but in this country, it surely will. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is the standard for justice for all.
    What country do you live in, btw?
     
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    I said nothing that you have any justification for taking as an insult.

    You absolutely HAVE put Trump above America, and I simply asked what's up with that.
     
  9. Overitall

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    Ok. Now that you got that spectacular nugget off your chest, anything else?
     
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    Even Trump eventually said that it was all campaign rhetoric, the lock her up stuff. Sort of like Democrats calling Trump a traitor. Want to keep up?
     
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    Couldn't agree more…
     
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    I am ready for not dumb Presidents. But y’all wanna keep supporting them.

    Do I want to keep up!? **** yeah. Do you think it was a good idea?
     
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  13. WillReadmore

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    That "reasonable doubt" is a measure of certainty needed in an actual trial.

    It's not a measure of whether the government should retrieve national security documents in someone's home.

    We're not at the trial stage ... yet.
     
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    You have no standing to dictate to me as to what I find offensive.

    As for your accusation in your second statement, just more mud you're hoping sticks to the wall.
     
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    I didn't support Biden at all.
     
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    Is he your president? Do you vote in American elections?
     
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    It’s fascinating the people that cannot comprehend that there is a legal process to declassify documents. trump simply saying so doesn’t meet that bar.

    I can see why they get such joy out of trolling the libs — watching the freak out is so completely enjoyable. Let them have their flags and bumper sticker slogans and I will settle with massive legal victories.
     
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    :handshake: Now that's a dumb-dumb if there ever was one...
     
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    Two men were acquitted and two men are facing a retrial. The Gretchen Wilmer Kidnapping Plot trial was mostly a circumstantial trial with people of the same militia group being on both sides of the defense and prosecution. From what I read in the trial transcripts, and public record BTW is that the defense created enough reasonable doubt when cross-examining certain witnesses, namely witnesses on the Prosecution list who are not the ones you want your daughter to date sort of thing. The two men who were not acquitted and on a hung jury were Adam Fox and Barry Croft. The other two, Daniel Harris and Brandon Caserta were acquitted or found not guilty. Six people were arrested in total, Fox, Croft, Harris, Caserta, Ty Garbin who pleaded guilty to conspiracy to kidnapping, and Kaleb Franks who turned in state's evidence and was not charged.

    I think you need to research this trial more closely
     
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    I agree.

    But, the retrieval of national security documents from an insecure site isn't something that is or should be subject to a trial.

    There was a subpoena. That was ignored. It didn't have to reach this point.
     
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    Yulee walked right into that one. :roflol:
     
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    The FBI agents were in the house, alone and unobserved. We've already seen what the FBI is capable of, when they want to destroy an American citizen.
     
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    Yep. You can ignore national security. That's your right.

    But, when I see that, I'll undoubtedly say something.
     
  24. Trixare4kids

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    Got anything else? In your last statement, you reiterated my point for me. If they put Trump on trial, Trump is innocent until proven guilty.
    Familiarize yourself with our system of justice, please.
     
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    And to think, Obama and the Democrats wanted to put Garland on our Supreme Court. o_O:eek:
     
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