Eric Trump reveals HE told Donald FBI raided Mar-a-Lago: Ex-President's son claims agents 'ransacked

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  1. Ddyad

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    Until Garland or one of his minions gets a federal grand jury to indict Trump he does not have to provide any evidence of anything at all.

    Garland may be asking himself: "Do I feel lucky?"
     
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    No, He's an attorney. Or so he claims he is.
    I never met an attorney that hasn't a clue about due process.
    This one doesn't even know it exist
     
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    He cannot provide what doesn't exist.
     
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    LOL!
     
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    What is the issue here with due process?

    (This ought to be amusing)
     
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    I’m not going to argue with you. I should have stopped a long time ago.
    You can believe his “I-declassified-everything-before-I-left-the-White-House-but-didn’t-mention-it-to-anyone-until-I-got-caught” defense but no rational people accept it.
     
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    Oh FFS. You make up whatever helps you sleep at night.

    YES, the POTUS can declassify a document, but he has to follow a process.

    He cannot just stand over the NSA and say “ I declassify everything”….it doesn’t work like that and you know it. If he declassifies something, the other agencies in the government need to know that and you know it.
     
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    Sorry.......that does not answer WHY he took them , kept them at his resort ( insecure )......and why did he use delay tactics instead of returning them when they were asked for/?? ..until it blew up with a search warrant.?? He created his won problems......and yet is playing he victim......

    Does not matter.........if they are classified or not......... they DO NOT BELONG T HIM.........they belong to the peoples. With his delay tactics.......of course it was going to end up with a search warrant.......as technically those are stolen goods.

    this has become such an emotional mess because of Trump[s big mouth.....and the crazies going nuts believing all kinds of nonsense. and now threatening war...............as if this country was some third world uneducated cesspool.
     
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    So what your saying is, he has to follow a process to declassify…

    JFC.
     
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    Time for you to read the entire thread. Plenty of links that prove you wrong, but in the event that you are short on time, here's a shortcut cheat link.

    PolitiFact | Does the president have 'the ability to declassify anything at any time'?
     
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    Maybe you're a closet Adam Schiff admirer?
    He is a great guy worthy of your admiration!




    I'm being sarcastic btw......
     
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    Whats really amusing is you had to ask.

    Did you know that no one shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process giving assurance that all levels of government must operate within the law and provide fair procedures. Or the protection the Bill of Rights gives citizens against the federal government.
    That would include the presumption of innocence until proved otherwise.

    Where you aware of the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    Yet a warrant stating all papers from January of 2017 through January of 2021 particularly describes items to be seized?
    Or maybe an box in the vicinity of any other box marked classified particularly describes items to be seized?

    Anyone with a law degree or years of higher education would be questioning the validity of the raid.

    Not Trumpy orange man rectum stole illegal documents he has no right too and your statements of fact you heard from CNNs anonymous insider FBI document claims.

    Speaks for itself, Doesn't it
     
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    What part of can declassify at will did you mix up with must be accountable went over your head
     
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    And you have neither making your statement ridiculous.
     
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    That isn't the law. trump wasn't a king. He was a criminal who duped the gullible into voting for him.
     
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    In fact I do have years of higher education and find almost everything you post to be pedestrian and dishonest
     
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    I'm really confused as to why our fellow posters don't get why it bothers us about the double standards the democrats have. If only they would hold their own accountable maybe it would be easier to persuade us to be more onboard when it comes to Trump. Sure, he's not above the law, but for them it's really not about the rule of law. It's just about hate.
     
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    Just a few? It was a "few" that were spineless voting for his impeachments.
     
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    Still waiting on you to provide these documents YOU claim he isn't entitled too.
    Or are you just making guesses because CNN said (X)
    You don't know squat but here you are professing what he can and can't have without knowing what documents were even taken.
    Not to mention you decided to KNOWINGLY throw in some other fake claims.

    Trumps attorneys already stated
    The FBI provided a subpoena, came to the property, reviewed the documents on location, and took what they wanted in June
    THey also certified to the FBI that no classified documents were on location
    The FBI claims the requested the attorneys to add additional locks to secure the documents they left.
    Thats not even in dispute by the FBI but you knowingly lie about it?

    So, you claim Trump has documents he isn't entitled too
    But you have no clue what documents they took

    You claim the documents were unsecure
    Yet the FBI claims they asked for additional locks which were provided

    The only people making such unfounded claims are the ones who are desperate because the truth doesn't work for them.
     
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    Seems the only duping was the left getting caught falsifying thousands of criminal claims they can't back up with a single indictment after hundreds of investigations and 6 years to do it in.
    The credibility problem is on you unless you are here to claim Trump is a super genius that outsmarted the entire Democrat party and 17 intelligence agencies.
    So is the Democrat party that dumb, or is Trump that smart?
     
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    exactly....
     
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    Well its right out of the Constitution.
    I wasn't under any expectation you would know what it means which is why I didn't post it to you.
     
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    Fury? Nah, but we should be concerned whenever the government is spying on its citizens. Although it's not against FBi policy to use informants it does have to be cautious in how they are used.
    https://www.fbi.gov/about/faqs/what-is-the-fbis-policy-on-the-use-of-informants
    It's acknowledged even by them that there is a potential for it to be abused. Who is accountable for making sure it's not if those up the food chain are the ones abusing it?
     
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    If all you have is ridiculous statements, it means you have nothing.
    Nobody even came close to a president walking into the NSA and doing something like that
    But if that is your bases for all reason, have at it.

    Although, it still doesn't change the SCOTUS ruling or the constitution no matter how many ridiculous made up hypotheticals you want to throw at it.

    There is no process the president must follow to declassify anything. He can do it at will.
    He can even give security clearances just by saying it to a simple staff member.
     
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    And you can continue to ignore the SCOTUS ruling all you want with your made up hypotheticals
    But it doesn't change the fact the a president can declassify and give security clearances at will just by saying it.
    The sooner you learn it, the sooner you can get over it.
    Don't know what to tell ya

    Maybe this can help you get over it

    The minute the president speaks about it to someone, he has the ability to declassify anything at any time without any process.
    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...resident-have-ability-declassify-anything-an/
     
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