New Power to the President, Declassify in Mind?

Yes, you would.

A lot of people are riding the market down and any advice you can pass along will save them a lot of money.

 

Months.

 

The January 6th committee is an investigative committee to find out what happened, by whom, and why. It is not a court of any kind.

 

And yet Trump has always claimed, always maintained, he has never failed in business. If he is not honest with his business dealings, what makes you think he is honest with everything else.

And i have known plenty of business owners who will admit they have failed before succeeding in their current venture. A number of them are chefs, entrepreneurs, real estate agents, insurance agents, etc. But what Trump does is brag, exaggerate, and sometimes down right lie about his businesses.

 

Describes malignant narcissist Trump.

 

You have lot of learning to do. What you say is rote. You do not know me at all, the same way I do not know you. This is especially true with online connections as the eyes say it all and we are not looking at each other. Online people mostly "play" as they have no need to reveal who they are.

What is revealed online are the topics you have interest in and opinions about. The difference that is evident by our conversations is that you have strong opinions about things and want to voice them. This is opposite to what I am doing given that I am not interested at all in giving my opinions. What my interest is in researching the topics to find the truth about what is being discussed and then letting others share in the knowledge so they too can learn what the facts and truth is. It isn't the topic that interests me, it is the journey that I am interested in.

The caveat to that is that opinions are worthless without facts I have absolutely no interest in anyone's opinions, even in giving mine. My interest is in the data and facts involved. One thing you seem to not have noticed is that every single thing that I state something, it is followed by links to data and articles that support the words. You on the other hand say things like "I thought (opinion) that we might have an open-minded member (put down with no data to support it)".

None of that means absolutely anything other than you stating your opinion.

You want to debate me about what I say and do? You take a statement of mine and you find data and facts that SHOW that my words are not based on facts and data and PROVE me wrong.

Otherwise, you are not showing me anything of value to learn. Data and facts are what I listen to. Every person on earth has an opinion. Few have any knowledge and in my old age, most people not my age have less knowledge than I do.

Once again, please don't slam the door on the way out.

 

If there's no process, no document can ever be classified or unclassified.
No one will know what classification any document is.
I am lost on what sentence 2 and 3 mean.

 

I don't see that as an option. Because the person whom he/she wants to share it with may not be qualified to see it.

I see grasping going on here.
Again, if thought can declassify, thought can classify. Biden can just claim he thought all the docs stolen by trump were classified, and presto like magic, classified.

 

Whataboutism Alert!

Trump looks guilty. His claim to declassify documents by thinking about it is hilarious.

 

You might modify some of your positions if you knew more about economics.

 

Here is a link to what I do (addressing your post)

http://theoasisclub.net/ospoasnews09182022.html

 

There is no process specified for how the president classifies or declassifies.

Logic says that he cannot classify or declassify a document not under his control because it could intrude on another person's liberties.

 

He classify or declassify. He is making the judgement on the spot of whether revealing that classified information might be in our national interest.

 

Making a judgement 18 months later when he is no longer president? Explain that to me. Those documents were NOT declassified while he was president?

 

We do not know whether he might have made the decision to declassify. That is the problem in a nutshell. There is no established procedures. He can claim whatever he wants at a later date and there is no way to absolutely prove him wrong.

 

And you think that is something that anyone has a moral thing to do? I don't want to argue the technicalities of law. The technicalities of law have put a lot of innocent people into jail and has let a lot of guilty people go free?

You don't want or expect morality from our president?

 

You are now making stuff up.

 

Most people are familiar with the figure of speech known as “kangaroo court”. When investigating you don’t start out with conclusions. The 1/6 committee already concluded before it started that Trump was responsible for the riot of 1/6, thus making it a kangaroo court.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_court

 

Making stuff up? WHAT?????

I asked a simple question. Is it the moral thing to do something that can cause serious damage to the country and you say it is making stuff up?

FACTS

1) documents had top secret denomination, meaning that is our enemies got ahold of them they could cause us harm.
2) documents were not stored in secure locations
3) documents were not his to have
4) Trump lied about having them in his possession
5) Trump gave an oath to protect the country and doing this put the country at risk

These are all things that are FACT and have to do with morality, ethics, and principles. What here is made up?

 

Have I ever said anything even resembling what you asked?

 

By your standard, Biden then is either a total pathological liar or the worlds most confused person. You didn't mention that. Rubber ruler? Foot on the scale?
What makes you think anybody is perfectly honest? I've never known anyone that hasn't told lies, but most people intend no harm- but many will refuse to fuel the attacks of those who seek to destroy them. The dems have no problem lying about Trump to destroy Trump, they have concocted endless lies since he announced he would run. But you still run with those people- so I doubt your "standard" applies to anyone but Trump.

America has big troubles right now, and one of the prime reasons we aren't dealing with them is the determination of so many people to pursue petty and/or past allegations and ignoring the critical here and now.
Small people that don't know that what they do today shapes the world of tomorrow, and then they will continue to whine and bitch about the very situation they are creating.

Trump had vision, a viable long term goal for the nation. That is vastly more valuable than everything all the haters and nitpickers combined brought to the table.

 

"Make America Great Again!" is a "viable long term goal?"



Trump's Mantra...

 

Your "making stuff up" was in response to my post saying:

And you think that is something that anyone has a moral thing to do? I don't want to argue the technicalities of law. The technicalities of law have put a lot of innocent people into jail and has let a lot of guilty people go free?

You don't want or expect morality from our president?

Show me where anything I stated was made up?

Do innocent people get put in jail unfairly because of the technicalities of the law?
Do guilty people go free because of a technicality?

Is putting an innocent person in jail or letting a guilty person go free immoral?

Do you expect morality from our president?

Where is any of this MADE UP?

 

The fact that you would ask such a question.

 

"you are not showing me anything of value to learn."
Learning is something most people don't do well. Not because truth and teachers aren't all around us- but because they already adhere to deeply flawed fundamental beliefs that make it impossible for them to consider anything that doesn't confirm and fit them. Few people ever question their own base programming, and reject everything that would correct it. Doesn't mean they are not intelligent- just means they are forever limited and never realize that they themselves are that limiting factor. IF this were not true, the human species would not be in the condition it's in. What would be of value for you to learn in this respect is rejected by what you already believe you know, and you don't question that. Insures that nothing you need to learn to change that will be visible to you; and probably never will be.

It's not what I've shown you- but what you have seen that dictates your conclusions. My door is always open to open minds.