Former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke Endorses Trump for President

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  1. Bluesguy

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    What is newsworthy and notable about it?
     
  2. Dale Cooper

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    Damn! What took you so long? Life's too short for that kind of...whatever.
     
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    The thing with Duke, he has ran for the presidency as a Democrat, a Republican and a Populace. He has ran for the Louisiana State House and the state Senate as a Democrat and as a Republican.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke

    Duke has gone with whatever party he thought he had the best chance of winning. Duke is for Duke. I have little use for Donald Trump and I sure wouldn't vote for him. But Duke is as much a KKK member for the Democrats as for the Republicans and Trump. His history proves it if one cares to look.
     
  4. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Why would you fantasize that "Duke has really gotten to you"?

    He is a well-known figure who, along with several neo-nazis and white supremacists, has deemed it appropriate to publicly express support for one, particular presidential candidate - a very unusual behaviour for denizens of this extremist ilk, and for which they must have their reasons.

    The support and endorsements have been deemed newsworthy by news media, and I see nothing to justify their being suppressed.

    Has the propriety of such a public discussion gotten to you?


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  5. WillReadmore

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    Somehow your post quotes me saying stuff that I certainly did not say and with which I profoundly disagree.

    "Flooding the country"? Resemble Mexico"? No, I do believe in borders but we are not flooding America and we are not moving toward resembling Mexico.

    And, our education problem comes from our own lack of respect for education.
     
  6. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Several of the news media deem it so. If it's not the public will decide.
     
  7. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    You have clearly failed to suppress discussion of the various news reports of neo-nazis and white supremacists supporting and endorsing Donald Trump for president.

    A well-informed electorate is essential for a successful democracy. This is only one of numerous considerations that must not be censored in pursuit of that objective.
     
  8. Injeun

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    Why must you make such ridiculous and slanderous statements? The key word which you left off from "immigrants" is illegal immigrants. If one is against bank robbery, it doesn't mean that he is against legal banking transactions. For gosh sakes, stop insulting us and making a fool of yourself in the process.
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    "Several" I don't find several and in fact the only one refutes the OP, Duke did not endorse Trump as the leftwing bigots want to assert.

    "But Duke did not endorse Trump and said he remains untrustworthy for his "deep Jewish connections" and support for Israel"
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/25/politics/david-duke-donald-trump-immigration/index.html

    So what is noteworthy about anything David Duke has to say and why does it get you in such a tizzy?

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    Yes so get well informed and stop spreading lies about Duke endorsing Trump as if if would matter at all.
     
  10. Injeun

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    You probably have far more in common with the right wing racist groups than not. So what? Communists and socialists are aligned with Barack Obama for his general philosophies. Not to mention the anarchists and black racist groups. Guarding our borders from illegal entry is hardly racist. Unless of course you think that your neighbors near proximity gives him the unquestionable and unassailable right to know your wife.
     
  11. Natty Bumpo

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    Despite your resorting to your scurrilous ad hominem attacks, whether you or I have more or less in common with neo-nazis and white supremacists groups is not germane, since they are not supporting your or my presidential candidacy.

    This is a public matter, publicly-declared support for a public figure running for public office.

    Your hyper-partisan ploy to make it personal fails.
     
  12. Natty Bumpo

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    Sniveling about "leftwing bigots" is a feeble surrender to the neo-nazis and white supremacists. They need to be courageously confronted.

    David Duke, the anti-Semitic former Ku Klux Klan leader, praised Republican front-runner Donald Trump for his immigration policy proposals and said Trump is "the best of the lot."

    Emotional Trumpies need to confront the facts they clearly find inconvenient.

    Neo-nazi and white supremacist individuals and organisations are proclaiming their support for and endorsing Trump for President of the United States.

    The Daily Stormer Endorses Donald Trump for President

    Former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke throws support behind Donald Trump


    The likes of the above as well as Andrew Anglin, Jared Taylor, Richard B. Spencer, and others of that ilk publicly supporting Trump may serve their agenda and that of their followers, but will not endear him to the American people.

    Trying to ignore, deny, or suppress that support is not a viable strategy.
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    He didn't endorse him.

    And again why do you get in such a tizzy about a person who expatriated himself and isn't even registered to vote here. He has no bearing on anything regardless of your fallacious beliefs otherwise. Your links merely repeat the same specious claim. What support are you claiming he has to offer and where does Trump accept it?

    I am sure Al Sharpton will endorse Hillary and in will not be surprised if she accepts the support of that racist, so get back me then and taut your claims that Duke has any significant or even marginal influence anywhere.
     
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    No is is all about businesses. The GOP do not want to slow down immigration. They want more immigration. They pretend to hate it because that is what the idiots they have to pander to to get the nomination want to hear. Once they are nominated, the immigrant bashing dies down and its all about protecting corporate profits.

    That is what happened in the 1800's as well. They bashed the Chinese and swore to deport them, but once they got nominated, they did a 180. They supported chinese immigration because the railroad barons wanted more Chinese workers because they were cheap and desperate.
     
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    Indeed thus you cannot judge Trump for Duke 's endorsement as Trump wants nothing to do with him let alone keeps company with him.
     
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    I didn't mention Duke whatsoever, I'm not sure how you managed to jump to that conclusion.
     
  17. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Donald Trump is attacking birthright citizenship for some because they aren't WASP's and that's racist. Donald Trump is attacking the children of "illegal" immigrants, brought here by their parents, where the child didn't violate any US laws, they were educated in US schools, they grew up in our American society and are just as American as you or I and the reason Trump attacks them is because they're not WASP's and that racist.

    Only the racist seems incapable of seeing Donald Trump as a racist because everyone else certainly can.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    I apologize if this happened and can assure you that it was a mistake of some kind. I never intentionally misquote anyone. Apparently it was someone elses statement that somehow became attached to you but I have no clue how that happened. My apologies again.
     
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    Well Louis Farrakhan supported Obama when he ran for president in 2008 (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...rrakhan-senator-obama-saviours-day-convention), so does that make Obama a racist? Timothy Mcveigh wrote that he deeply admired Thomas Jefferson, so does that mean that Thomas Jefferson would support blowing up a building and killing 168 innocent people and maiming hundreds more? Of course not.

    You claim that "you can judge a person by the company that they keep," but Trump doesn't even know David Duke, let alone keep close company with him. Thus, you are clearly inappropriately applying this quote. If David Duke said that he thought the Dalai Lama was cool, that doesn't automatically make the Dalai Lama a racist.
     
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    Ahhhhh.... but Trump is associated with the other Republican presidential candidates that are also advocating policies and agendas based upon White (WASP) Male Supremacy. Trump's position on immigration and denial of birthright citizenship that exclusively addresses "non-WASPs" is mirrored by other Republican presidential candidates that he rubs elbows with all of the time.
     
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    I find people that use the term WASP frequently and accuse all that dont think of them as "racist" the issue and not people like Trump trying to tackle illegal immigration.
     
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    First and foremost the term WASP is not disparaging but WASP Male Supremacist is and should be.

    Next is the fact that Donald Trump is not addressing the "illegal immigration" problem because he's not addressing the two key issues related to it.

    1, Why do people illegally immigrate to the United States?
    2. Our immigration laws have always been based upon preventing "non-WASP's" from immigrating to the United States to preserve WASP Male Supremacy in the United States.


    The answer to the question "Why do people illegally immigrate to the United States" is easily answered because they do so for exactly the same reason everyone has historically immigrated to the United States. They come to escape political and economic oppression in their native country of birth and to be with family. It was the same reason my father's ancestors immigrated to the US in the 19th Century from Denmark and why my mother's ancestors immigrated to the American colonies from England in the 18th Century prior to the founding of the United States.

    This bogus belief that our ancestors had a "right to immigrate" but others, because they're not Protestants and not from England, don't have this identical right is pure hypocracy and it's based upon racism.

    The second problem is also easy to address. Don't deny people the right to immigrate to the United States for peaceful purposes such as economic and political liberty and freedom and instead prohibit immigration for those that would engage in nefarious criminal activities without any regard for nationality or heritage. The person seeking employment or to be with family is not here for nefarious reasons and they should never be denied the "right to immigrate" to the United States to escape the political and economic oppression in their country of birth just like our ancestors did.

    We cannot justifiable deny a right of immigration that our ancestors enjoyed to others that would come here for the identical reasons because rights exist for everyone equally. Basing that denial on race, religion, ethnic heritage, national origin, social status or other invidious criteria, which has always been a component of our immigration laws, is a heinous violation of the Rights of the Person directly violating the ideology upon which America was founded.
     
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    You seem to still have an issue with the difference between illegal and legal. Our immigration laws have changed over time.
    To attribute those changes to "racism" shows nothing but ignorance and projection. People from around the world immigrate here LEGALLY every year. You ignore this to proclaim that anyone against ILLEGAL immigration is "racist" its a tired old act of yours.
     
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    They're driven by raw emotion.

    Of course, at this point leading up to 2012 election, Ricky Perry was leading the Republican polls, and Rudy Giuliani had it in the bag for 2008, but such summer flings have a way of drying up like autumn leaves, their "conquests" feeling rather sullied and used.

    Will his groupies ever grasp that neo-nazis and white supremacists embracing him should be a cautionary signal as to whom they unthinkingly are surrendering their hearts?

    Will their heads ever follow those hearts in seeking cogent, substantive information - such as asking what his blithely proposed "something terrific" replacement of the Affordable Care Act actually consists, and how he intends to work with Congress in the monumental task of undertaking such an enormous demolition and reconstruction?

    Pretending that he can snap his manicured fingers and make 11-12 million undocumented men, women, and children go "Poof!" is a feature of his act that has Trumpies especially giddy, but, as in most of his pipe dreams, the formidable wall he confronts is not his gargantuan nativist barricade but reality.

    Bullying foreign nations seems to capture their fancy, but he would not be on his home ground of televison entertainment where they can be cast as passive, malleable props.

    He snarls sweet nothings in their ears, and they become his submissive playthings.

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    My expectation is that Jeb ! will deploy his fat cats' resources to expose The Great Flatu's opportunistic flitting about and wantonly embracing whatever policy positions play to the peanut gallery, sprinkling gossamer fairy dust in lieu of facts, issuing catty quips at critics rather than confronting criticism, and boasting about being a political virgin as he peddles his virtue to the bumpkins - one sleazy sales pitch, indeed, his undeniable métier.

    In the meantime, it's amusing to partake of the GOP follies.

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    Well you did say

    But thanks fro clearing it up that there is no company between the two.
     

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