‘No One Will Ever Believe That Both Your Hard Drive and Mine Crashed Within a Week’

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Uh....wouldn't that be a fairly easy thing to find out? and then it would backfire on the accuser?

    One problem I can see here is that Republicans apparently all think we're stupid if we'd think that kind of thing might be a problem. To go further I've always just assumed, along with most people I know, that if you're really constantly running the government down that you MIGHT be called in for a tax audit one time or another, and that's whoever is in office. I mean, really, it's not supposed to be safe to cheat on your taxes, is it? Or is that one of the "rights" which you guys think are all being taken from us
     
  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    They don't control Congress anymore because all their gerrymandering paid off and gave them a 2year bonus. They're not going to be in the White House come 2017 unless they come up with somebody sane to run, and that doesn't appear to be happening.
     
  3. Anders Hoveland

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    Actually no. People have been held for many months in jail on the slightest bit of "evidence". A prosecutor accuses them of having once earned some sort of huge vague some of money.
    They don't have to know exactly where this alleged income came from, or even where this alleged money currently is, to put them in jail. And a prosecutor can basically make sure bail is denied, if they want, for various unethical reasons (it's actually not that uncommon, unfortunately), to put pressure on the defendant to plea bargain is the most common one.

    The accusers virtually never get punished, not when they are a government prosecutor, a judge, or a police accountant expert.
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    Until ...................what............silence? Does it even raise just the slightest concern with you? Does this now raise the flag of FULL investigation required now and FULL cooperation by the Obama administration?
     
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    Yes Democrats are quite adept at stonewalling, just witness the Clinton years.

    Attempt to divert noted.

    Which ones have they lost?

    Ahhh you don't seem to get it, they just got 32,000 emails the IRS has repeatedly stated no longer existed, if they can't get the evidence how can they do something?
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    And let's not forget the billing records Foster was illegally in possession of and illegally working on that were under supena for two years which by accident were noticed on Hillary's table in her private living quarters in the WH with her finger prints and hand written notes on them.
     
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    Does not require the administration to perform a real investigation, as with any criminal investigator, cooperation from the suspect while nice is not required to gather the evidence. Smart criminals and even the innocent should not cooperate any more than to give whatever information they feel they should, the second one believes they are the one being investigated is the second to stop talking and get an attorney, guilty or not.
     
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    as your IT team how many drives had to be "re-imaged" last month... hard drive "crashes" often means OS crashes and required a re-image

    that said, IT should be backing up all emails... deleting them from a local pc has zero effect on this backup (if they are not, they they suck as an IT team)

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  9. Casper

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    Why would the Clintons want to help in a baseless Witch Hunt? Would you? I do not think so.

    No diversion it is simply you not liking the message.

    All of them, name any of the so-called scandals that have been cleared with trials and convictions, after over six years far I see none. More selective memory on your part?

    Often people, including IT departments do not know if information is lost in a crash, and will not be able to determine it is still stored somewhere else or not. You might want t learn a little on the subject before ASSUMING you know why something is said or how they may now have found some of the so-called lost data. Question to ask yourself: If the emails are supposedly so damaging and they were supposedly lost then why on earth would they later come out and say they have been found stored elsewhere when they could have simply gotten rid of it? Logic can be your friend if you actually use it.
     
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    So you are admitting these are not just government officials but criminal government officials and that justifies them withholding evidence and conspiring to withhold evidence.
     
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    If the administration does not fully cooperate, they're liars!

    [video=youtube;xxCVENhSq9M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxCVENhSq9M[/video]
     
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    You must have missed the following, try again, read s l o w e r this time:
    "even the innocent should not cooperate any more than to give whatever information they feel they should, the second one believes they are the one being investigated is the second to stop talking and get an attorney, guilty or not."
     
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    It's called a supena, but the issue was hiding supena'd documents illegally by the legal counsel to the President and then those documents being illegally in the hands of Hillary and found in her private residence.

    No it was a diversion but go ahead.

    So they did a good job of hiding the evidence and you cheer them for doing so?

    Ahhh it's not the same "they". Logic can be your friend if you actually use it. You might want to bone up on the actual facts here before you start stating who has said what and who has found what.

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    So you are admitting these people engaged in criminal acts or are you asserting NO government officials should ever cooperate with Congressional oversight? That anyone who is being investigated for criminal acts should ignore supena's? Should lie in depositions?
     
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    What I am saying is when someone is investigating you as a suspect you are an Idiot if you cooperate with them, Innocent or Not. MOD EDIT - Rule 3
     
  15. Terrant

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    You'd think that whomever is doing IT support for the government would have learned their lesson when something similar happened during the Bush administration.
     
  16. Wake_Up

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    As has been mentioned many times...in MS Exchange, your emails do not live on your PC...they live on the server. If you run in "live" mode you download the header info at start up and your client PC contacts the server for the content every time you click on an email. In "cached" mode, your client downloads a copy of the mailbox to an ".ost" file which is stored locally on the PC. This alleviates traffic to the server...but your email ultimately lives on the server.

    If they are using Exchange 2010 (which I believe they are), the DAG's (Database Availability Groups) should be backed up, at least for DR purposes....and there are data retention laws requiring backups to be kept for a certain amount of time.

    Claiming the PC's hard drive crashed as an excuse to "lose" emails is fundamentally a lie.
     
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    From what I am seeing is that the only thing that a DAG does is to ensure that if a computer crashes, there is no loss of availability (at least it seems to be very similar to AlwaysOn in SQL Server 2012). If the data is not backed up and archived, it is not going to be available. I do wonder, given amount of data that would need to be backed up, if the retention policies are consistent with statutory requirements; could someone have cut corners.

    Either way, the lost email claim seems fishy to me. My prediction is that I think there is a scandal here but conservatives are going to be disappointed when it comes out; the IRS targeted any group that was political in nature.
     
  18. BroncoBilly

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    It wouldn't matter to you anyway.

    It will be a pleasure to watch that lying pathetic lib loon woman get what she deserves. Liberal loons have been Grubered again
     
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    So to was the claim that the backup tapes are recycled every 6 months.
     
  20. Wake_Up

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    The DAGs contain all the mailboxes in them and when backed up allow restoration of those mailboxes (the database as a whole). I'm not aware of any organization that has the resources to do individual level mailbox backups.

    Shadow copies can provide instant restoration, but default is 14 days. Anything older than that would require restoration of a DAG...but that can be done in a dev environment so as not to disrupt the prod environment.
     
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    We have to have an AG that isn't an Obama puppet first. The new one appears to be just Holder in a skirt.
     
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    Actually, that's possible, depending on their rotation schedule, but that's not quite the whole story. If one tape is recycled, you can be sure there is another that contains info.
     
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    Very true. Sad when the AG is supposed to be non partisan and enforce our nations laws, but we have ended up with divisive hateful racists
     
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    Record keeping laws are quite specific, there is no excuse good enough for failure to comply at the Director's level of the IRS.
     
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    Do you really think that the govt uses the local hard drive for emails?
     

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