‘Blue’ wave for GOP? BLUE collar workers overwhelmingly say lives BETTER under Trump

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  1. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its disgusting, but true.

    I think a lot of moderates (blue collar Trump democrats) realize this.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gee, I am glad I have a few guns up here. I will look out for violent Democrats in case they win. And I am hiding all my money under my mattress. Thanks for the heads up.
     
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    We should just tax everyone at zero then right?

    It’s cute that you attempted to dodge the farm subsidies... but typical

    Taxes are part of living in a developed nation.
    If you don’t like it there are numerous remedies.

    Democrats tax and spend. Republicans just spend.
    Which party is the one for fiscal responsibility again?
     
  4. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have you considered investing in gold?
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We should tax things the least amount possible.

    Taxation is a very real disincentive.

    Im not a fan of subsidies or tariffs, but if we are losing out for abiding by bad deals, they need to go.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Got a bunch already, but thanks for your concern. Gold always goes up at the end of a GOP President's run. I made a bunch after Bush screwed the pooch...
     
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    2016 CWA leaned for Trump in my experience as a wire tech. The CWA officially supported Bernie, then HRC, but if you talked to the techs, not many had a bad word to say about Trump but plenty bad about HRC and Sanders both. But, that was here in TN.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ive noticed a mismatch between the official position of union leadership, and its actual members.
     
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    Free Beacon can be ignored.

    The issue is not the economy, it is Trump.

    The Dems have managed to make this election a referendum on Trump.

    The generic ballot is probably 6 to 8% favoring the Dems.

    Trump's outbursts or lack of them AND Mueller's October surprises, if any, may well decide the Congressional majorities.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lolz at "can be ignored".

    Hillary in a landslide they said.
     
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    A strong economy will win out over identity politics. Green is the color that matters most.
     
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    Five years ago.

    Yeah, most everyone is better off than they were in 2013.

    Of course, that was four years before Trump became President, and five years before Trump made any changed on economic policy at all.

    So, thanks Obama!
     
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    The people who laughed at Trump when he promised 3% GDP that it wasn't possible, now want to give Obama the credit. The guy behind the manage decline policy and New Normal. They want to give the guy who said the jobs aren't coming back the credit for the jobs coming back.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Same thing here in NM. CWA district 7 was pulling for Sanders, but when he bowed out the CWA was undecided between Trump and Clinton. Ultimately they went with Clinton but the damage was done and many of the technicians went with Trump.
     
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    While I do wish the tax cuts were bigger and more broad across the economic spectrum, there's no doubt that the activity signaled a change in relations between government and business. The idea that if businesses came to America, they would be rewarded instead of penalized with punitive taxes.

    The reality is, America is strong with a strong private sector, rather than a low private sector and heavy taxes. Government gets more revenue with more people in the work force, regardless of particular tax rate.
     
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    I don't remember which CWA district is here. I quit att DTV last summer to go back to college.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can you tell me more about wire techs?

    I'd like to know.

    I like the idea that there are wire techs out there.
     
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    Which dems have made it a referendum? Adam Schiff, who's claimed all along he's seen overwhelming evidence of "collusion" just cautioned his (D) colleagues not to mention impeachment "before all the facts are in". :confuse: (D)'s are being unseated by socialists ... It's a trend, and it's thr real referendum that's taking shape.
     
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    It was previously Democratic, low-education, white, blue-collar workers that abandoned the Party in 2016 to vote for Trump.

    That many still support him is not surprising.

    Some no longer do:
    That Trump's unpopularity with Americans in general is also reflected in this demographic is what one would expect.
     
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    Among the reasons that Trump's support among blue-collar Whites has dropped:


     
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    When the Wall Street Journal reported

    Tariffs Unlikely to Bring Back Many U.S. Blue-Collar Jobs, Study Finds
    Protectionist trade measures may boost U.S. manufacturing output, but those factories now rely on robots and fewer, better-educated workers
    the conservative financial newspaper tacitly underscored the reality that robots do not vote, but blue-collar workers do.




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    "That guy with the great hair color promises to put US back to work!"

     
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    Yup, I am right, and you are wrong.

    16 MILLION MORE VOTED AGAINST TRUMP than for him.

    Clinton kicked his ass in the PV. There is no EV in this election.

    There will only be GOP and Dem in almost all the elections in November.

    If Trump keeps messing up, the Blue Wave could be a tsunami.
     
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    If any other politician than Trump was involved, I would agree. But he is involved and is increasingly shooting himself in the foot and America is increasingly hating him.

    GOP has a bit more than two months turned it around.
     
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    "Trump’s Promises to ‘Forgotten Man’ Undercut by Wage Stagnation"

    "President Donald Trump heads into a midterm referendum on his presidency showing no real progress on a core promise: to raise the wages of America’s “forgotten man and woman.”

    "Once the impact of inflation is included, ordinary Americans’ hourly earnings are lower than they were a year ago."

    "Real wages have remained mostly stagnant despite an expanding economy, record stock prices, soaring corporate profits and a giant deficit-fueled stimulus from Trump’s tax cuts that took effect Jan. 1. "

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...by-wage-stagnation/ar-BBMxEAd?ocid=spartandhp
     
  25. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mid terms tend to favor Republicans, because they are more likely to vote.

    The polling I've seen is of registered voters, not likely voters which tends to favor republicans as well.

    Then there's the Trump effect-people who don't want to admit to a pollster that they support Trump/Republicans.

    And as always, there is media bias which tends to favor dems-of course thats been exposed this cycle.

    So we will see.
     

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