‘It’s just horrifying’: Seven killed in Australia’s deadliest mass shooting in 22 years

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  1. Bowerbird

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    And so Concealed carry should have less convictions because THEY HAVE BEEN VETTED
     
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    We have massive amounts of people, that resent the history of Slavery here in America, they still resent White People, and I have been told so to my face, I was on a side walk and a black lady wanted to enter the gas station and made as if to run me over, and yelled to get my White Ass out of the way, and Pedestrians on a sidewalk or crossing, by law, have right of way over cars here in America.

    Lots of Minorities feel that they are owed something, and go committing crimes and selling illegal Drugs etc......
    Then complain when they are put in prison, as if White people are judged and found innocent of crimes and Minorities are found instantly Guilty and sent to Prison.
     
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    Yes, and no Gun store in any State will sell you a Gun, without a State I.D. and background check, full vetting.
    Same deal for concealed carry, and I was vetted to work E.M.S., POLICE, and for various health care jobs.

    And since I have a solid Gold record, I have never been cited even for spitting or smoking, public drinking / intoxication etc......
     
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    I'm sure they'll find something to scapegoat.

    The shooter could have broken into a police station and stolen a police rifle and we'd be talking about more gun control.

    When there are these events with such massive grief, and no perpetrator to punish, the public needs someone or something to attack.
     
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    Do you still allow semiauto handguns with ten round magazines? Then 31 is doable. Do you have rental trucks in the area of 19 to be weight class. Then 87 is doable
     
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    maybe you should spend more time trying to deal with the killings in your country, rather than trying to diminish our rights. we get tired of foreigners telling us that they don't like our rights. We don't give a damn if you do or do not.
     
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    If the gunman didn't have access to guns in the first place, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
     
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    Yes, and where does Cocaine come from ?
    Those few Countries can smuggle in guns of all kinds with Cocaine.

    Any well equipped machine shop can manufacture guns.
    Most gunsmiths can produce firearms.



    And Revolvers are more difficult to manufacture than a semiautomatic handgun such as a 1911 pattern handgun and less consistently accurate as a revolver needs an accurate timed cylinder, something a semiautomatic handgun does not have, as a semiautomatic handgun has a barrel with an integrated chamber and no cylinder gap.
     
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    It comes from coca leaves.
    Not if you tighten up border inspections

    Change the laws to mandate the death sentence for those convicted of the illegal manufacture/sale of guns/ammo. It'll be a huge deterrent to violating the law.
     
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    No Country would do that.

    America is villanized for having a death penalty for murderers, and a death penalty for producing firearms makes no sense.

    What about producers of illegal drugs that kill ?
    Cocaine, Heroin, Crystal Meth, Methamphetamines, to name a few.
     
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    We have a Second Amendment Right to Firearms in America.
     
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    Regarding the borders, not only can we not secure them now, but the current numbers of guns would be impossible to eliminate.
    As for the death penalty idea, just like GCAs to Dream that up, kill people to stop guns, start a revolt where larger numbers of people die to stop guns, have people (not the most vocal GCAs) do the dirty deed of gun confiscation. Lives don’t matter as long as guns eliminated. Who are the real bad guys then?
     
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    And again, guns can be manufactured by any decently equipped machine shop.
    And no, a death penalty for the U.S. for firearms manufacture is not possible as we have a Second Amendment Right to firearms.
     
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    I loved the irony of this, given the title of the thread. There's also a deliberate misrepresentation here. Its pitched as 'foreigner vs domestic', but we know that the best gun control evidence (given, for example, data availability) is American evidence. God Bless America!
     
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    BULLSHIT,!!

    Have you SEEN the rates for murder suicides??
    can you do it in the same time frame as a semi automatic?
     
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    And yet that is not how Aus criminalas are getting access
     
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    Ten out of thousands of papers published every year

    Yeah that is a real worry
     
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    Then it cannot be said that anything was actually done to try and prevent mass shootings from occurring. What was done, was the public tricked into believing that something was done, when in truth nothing was done.
     
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    The vetting process involved is no more strenuous or involved than the background check necessary to purchase a firearm from a federally licensed firearms dealer.
     
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    And if there was no disease in the world, no one would ever die of illness. Neither of which, however, is a practical possibility.

    Firearms are available to individuals who should not have them all over the world. Even the nation of Japan is not immune to this, as the yakuza crime organization is heavily involved in smuggling firearms into the country.
     
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    Those who violate the law are the real bad guys. As for the border, Trump say's he'll have it under control sooner then later.
     
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    As opposed to those who utilize the law for the express purpose of victimizing and hurting others to exploit holding a position of political power? Is it believed by yourself that government is always right?
     
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    I think it's viable if the laws are put into place and enforced.
     
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    The government is usually right, in this case they'd be right.
     
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    You can certainly do it in the time frame of the average mass shooting. It's not how fast the cyclic rate is, but how many aimed shots can the shooter take before resistance shows up. Here's how fast 19th century tech can be.

     
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