‘We’re Going Back To The Capitol’: Ex Trump Campaign Official Announces ‘Huge’ Protest

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    With it being open season on MAGA I don't think they should be marching. Their right to march and assemble is effectively removed at the moment.

    The place for them to fight for their rights, given that it's open season on them, is at the ballot box and in the courtroom.
     
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    Well said but defense of the indefensible simply because of a political affiliation is par for the course.
     
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    Nah, there would not be media bootlickers like there were for Obama.
     
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    Again, what passes for the "progressive" "Left" these days cheerleading for a garrison state.

    When will they ever learn?
     
  5. Zorro

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    They view us as less than human. That's why they aren't completely against beating us or killing us.
     
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    True, dehumanize your enemy. It is a sad state but for them Americans ARE the enemy.
     
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    You aren't really adding much to the conversation.
     
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    I would love to see how many idiots show up this second time.
     
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    True. Alas.

    "Steyer."So if the answer is that we need those three things to happen for a course correction, I'd prefer to move a little quicker. How about that? But I take your point. Maybe we can have, like, a nuclear war and then we get a real course correction."

    RS "Wow – that's...sobering."
    THE ROLLING STONE, A Conversation With Tom Steyer, the Liberal Billionaire Bankrolling Trump’s Impeachment, By Tim Dickinson, 6/29/18.
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/who-is-tom-steyer-w522136
     
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    I can see a big protest, but I would just do it on the Mall and not at Congress. Those whacks proved they can't resist the opportunity to take over the nation.

    Let's now all bow down to our new viking hat overlords!
     
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    Sad that the Capitol can’t be protected from unarmed protesters.
     
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    Just or not, the streets are not the place for us to fight this. We need to fight this in the courts and in the legislatures. he prosecutors aren't prosecuting violent acts against the politically active right. The only reason the guy in Portland who shot a MAGA protester dead paid a price is because Trump sent Federal Officers into arrest him. The Local and State police didn't even question him, despite the cold blooded killing being on video.

    Some of the prosecutors who aren't prosecuting are elected. We need to vote smarter.

    When Clinton was elected, he immediately fired nearly all the US attorneys. DeSantis needs to do the same.
     
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    OK. Just so I'm clear here...

    You think the statement "People are vehemently defending Ashli Babbitt for disobeying a direct order by a Capitol police officer"

    EQUATES to...

    "if a person who is committing a petty misdemeanor does respond to a lawful order that law enforcement has the authorization to shoot them dead."?

    Beyond that false interpretation, she did NOT respond to a lawful order from law enforcement.
     
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    Oh, I'm sure they will let us know loud and clear.
     
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    Isn't Bannon the guy who went on for weeks about the dams failing in China, and the resulting collapse of the CCP last year?

    Find a more credible "threat".
     
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    The officer will never be held to account by any conceivable RP run government body unless you think Biden/Harris will be impeached and removed from office an Trump somehow installed to replace him - and even then ....

    IOW, in the real political world we live in, the officer is safe and secure from any prosecution, and will probably never even be examined before a congressional hearing.
     
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    That's precisely what I challenged you on. You think that justifies the officer killing her.
     
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    Let's try again. YOU are making the jump to saying I think it was justifiable. I didn't say that.

    Further, it's not an all-or-nothing proposition. I can simultaneously hold the opinion that she disobeyed a direct order and she probably didn't need to be killed for it.

    HOWEVER (and this is a big one)....

    I also do NOT believe that every black and brown person deserves to be gunned down by cops either.

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    I commented on the outrage over Babbitt's death that wants to paint her as some kind of saint when the EXACT same thing she did is used as "justification" when an officer kills a black or brown person.

    Does that mean only white people deserve the benefit of the doubt?

    Does that mean ALL black and brown people are innately disobedient and deserve to be shot?

    What do you think it means when people differentiate the "value" of a life by what level of melanin is in the skin (of the shooter and the victim)?
     
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    Most felonies in DC do not have a SOL. As soon as the GOP retakes congress I expect the cover up for this officer to end and the unreleased video and his statements explaining why he used lethal force to be released so they can be compared with the legal standard for using lethal force and the physical evidence.
     
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    Oh, come on. For what purpose.
     
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    We will never know. I doubt 4 tough officers killed themselves over the horror of q’anon shaman. I bet these 4 were of the opinion that it wasn’t that bad so the dirty democrats “handled it”
    We shall never knowalso those deaths don’t count as “at the riot” deaths
     
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    Now you are claiming that you simply mentioned it in passing and that it held no more meaning that if you had mentioned the color of her shirt?
    Describe the circumstances where it would justify killing her.
    Non Sequitur. Show me ANY published law enforcement standard, or ANY law, or ANY court decisions in this nation that has differing justified use of lethal force standards depending on the skin color of person it is used against.
    Show me ONE single case, in the entire nation, where lethal force was justified against anyone committing a petty misdemeanor.
     
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    I didn't make any claim other than I never say her shooting was justified. All the extra baggage is yours.
    None of that is relevant so, No.
    There are hundreds, if not thousands, of cases of LEOs killing black and brown people. The fact that you want to pretend that doesn't happen doesn't change its existence.

    There are no laws on the books that address redlining, higher interest rates for non-white would-be-borrowers or LIFO employment but all that exists too.
     
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    Yet he (Trump) "loved" the kid in Wisconsin. Strange
     
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    lol... if only they had a way to stop those unarmed people. It's too bad they took over the country.
     

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