“Cancellation of Atlanta Festival Sparks New Fight Over Guns”

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by archives, Aug 13, 2022.

  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    42,249
    Likes Received:
    33,214
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What are you not getting here?
    That’s what they are doing.
     
    dairyair likes this.
  2. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2010
    Messages:
    53,878
    Likes Received:
    18,328
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Why do you think I'm getting at something as there's some sort of subtext. I agree with what Georgia is doing and people who don't like the Constitution can **** off. You shouldn't be allowed to suspend someone's rights just because you play music.
     
  3. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,149
    Likes Received:
    19,991
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Firearms banned at events with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who has argued 'gun-free' zones are less safe
    ...
    Attendees should be prepared for "airport-like screening," according to listings for the events posted by Turning Point Action on EventBrite, where would-be guests are encouraged to request tickets. Security will be turning away the visibly intoxicated, according to the listing, as well as also for the following prohibited items: "ammunition, knives, projectiles, pepper spray, expandable batons, [and] firearms."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...gued-gun-free-zones-are-less-safe/ar-AA10rVIK


    ...
    Prepare for 'airport like screening'.
     
  4. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    42,249
    Likes Received:
    33,214
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Most of these places you statistical data to determine a ton of things, they know the demographics that are attracted to these types of events.

    That’s why I believe places individual rules are best left up to the event organizer(s) and conference with local Law Enforcement.
     
  5. Ruger87

    Ruger87 Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2022
    Messages:
    1,068
    Likes Received:
    1,452
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    If you take an able-bodied male with bad intentions, give him a machete, and let him loose around a large group of people that he knows is not armed…. he can kill just as many people as your average thug can in a drive-by shooting in Chicago which happens literally every single day.
     
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2022
    SiNNiK likes this.
  6. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    42,249
    Likes Received:
    33,214
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Do you feel businesses and private venues should be able to ban weapons? Or should they be barred from doing so?
     
  7. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2010
    Messages:
    53,878
    Likes Received:
    18,328
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You're the second person who's brought this up I don't understand the point you're making.
     
  8. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2010
    Messages:
    53,878
    Likes Received:
    18,328
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Private property rights are always above rights of people on your property that don't own it.

    So no.

    This further demonstrates that this is a political statement rather than a safety concern. I can find a venue that won't let people bring firearms to it but they don't want to the political statements more important.

    This sort of social justice warriors need a great big middle finger in their face.
     
  9. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,149
    Likes Received:
    19,991
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I am sure you don't.
    But others may get the point.
     
  10. Bearack

    Bearack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2011
    Messages:
    7,892
    Likes Received:
    7,471
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Then you'd know that any law abiding citizen that carries will not carry if they are going to consume alcohol. Every state has laws around consumption of fire arms. Its the criminals that continue to break the laws, yet, bail reform places them right back on the streets.
     
  11. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2010
    Messages:
    53,878
    Likes Received:
    18,328
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Making a point I'm not sure you're making a point other than whataboutism.

    Is the reason for this that state law? You don't know you just post links to trash media with the opinions of ass clowns.
     
    FatBack likes this.
  12. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    42,249
    Likes Received:
    33,214
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Pretty sure this was just the standard venue they had always used. There is a tremendous cost to identifying a new venue, planning security, set up, insurance, vendor and talent agreements — it’s insane that you believe the law change isn’t the sole reason for this and instead blame “sjw”.
     
  13. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,149
    Likes Received:
    19,991
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The OP topic is about banning or not banning guns in large public gatherings.

    The R party is banning guns at some of their political rallies. Going against the fact they think the more guns there are in public places the safer everyone is.
    Of course that is unless they are attending said public space.

    It's their hypocrisy.
     
    bx4 likes this.
  14. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2010
    Messages:
    53,878
    Likes Received:
    18,328
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    But now they are butthurt because Georgians have rights.
    That's the only reason they are. If they were afraid of being shot they would have never played there in the first place. Anybody can have a gun anywhere at any time.

    This is about a law and pathetic virtue signaling.
     
  15. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2010
    Messages:
    53,878
    Likes Received:
    18,328
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Seems to be about a cancellation of a festival.

    And butthurt over gun rights.
    Are they cancelling because they don't have the ability to suspend rights?
    So it is whataboutism?
     
  16. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    42,249
    Likes Received:
    33,214
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The artists don’t want to get shot
    Without the artists the event is canceled

    Not wanting to be shot is now “virtue signaling”?
     
    bx4 likes this.
  17. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    42,249
    Likes Received:
    33,214
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    They are suspending those rights
    Something the event was not allowed to do
     
  18. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Messages:
    34,529
    Likes Received:
    13,087
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Your position on its validity is irrelevant, it is or was all over the news. BTW, are you actually inferring that the gov is actually going to allow anyone to bring a gun to his rally. :)
     
  19. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2010
    Messages:
    53,878
    Likes Received:
    18,328
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So murderers we're just waiting for carry of fire arms to be legal? Why don't they care about that in places like California and NYC where carrying is highly restricted?

    This is an excuse. If they were worried about being shot they wouldn't perform in stage. Is a bullet fired out of an illegally possessed fire arm some how safe?
    No, pretending a law permitting gun rights is somehow going to get you shot is virtue signaling or profound stupidity.

    I live in Texas where people can walk around with fire arms just about anywhere. I've never been shot. Why is that?
     
  20. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2010
    Messages:
    53,878
    Likes Received:
    18,328
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So? That doesn't mean it's true.
    No. I'm only questioning if this is a real thing. So far all I have heard is a bunch of media ass clowns (habitual liars) claimed it was.

    That's like showing me Bible quotes to prove good exists.
     
  21. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Messages:
    34,529
    Likes Received:
    13,087
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Keep digging !!
     
  22. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2010
    Messages:
    53,878
    Likes Received:
    18,328
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Keep dodging.
     
  23. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2017
    Messages:
    10,682
    Likes Received:
    8,954
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Because you aren't a teacher in Uvalde.
     
    bx4 likes this.
  24. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Messages:
    34,529
    Likes Received:
    13,087
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ok, care to make a bet, that the gov of FL was going to allow guns at his rally. :)
     
  25. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2010
    Messages:
    53,878
    Likes Received:
    18,328
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So the reason why there was a mass murder in Texas is because I'm allowed to buy a gun and carry it what does that have to do with what happened I mean I carry a gun everywhere I've never shot anybody?

    If having a gun makes you shoot people why are so many gun owners not shooting people?
     

Share This Page