“These Teacher Unions Are Out Of CONTROL”

Schools aren't required.

Is that the point you're trying to make?

 

Seriously, you have no idea what you're talking about. I taught computer science and computer applications to high school students and adults. I also taught teachers how to use computer technology for instruction.

Years ago, I put my courses on line. I supplemented with internet sources, especially for American History and Economics. It was more work than simple in-person instruction--and I have skills that allow me to rapidly develop learning materials.

It would take most teachers several years to get the hang of it.

 

NO. I'm saying that the issues with schools and those with hospitals are not the same.

And, they are not treated the same, either.

Hospitals go to great lengths to maintain a clean environment against the possibility of communicating disease. And, they ARE absolutely required.

The enviroment of a hospital and the environmet of an in-person school are not even slightly comparable.

Groupings of people outside of hospital type environments (or isolation) are how COVID spreads. Hospials are one of the tools in reducing the spread. These are opposities - not to be compared.

If CDC guidelines for opening schools were implemented, I may well have a different view of opening schools.

But today, that is not the situation. And, today our school systems do not have funds to make it the situation.

At the very least, let's absolutely REJECT the notion that hospitals and schools have any equivalence in terms of spreading disease.

OK?

 

I absolutely agree with this.

Really, the first steps have to do with how to design education given current budget and the array of technology available. It can also require an understanding of the technology available to students - both at school and at home.

That is a serious and constantly changing challenge.

And, there certainly is training to follow, as both the technology and how it is integrated require learning.

 

Hillary was terrible, but that's because she from the upper-income, educated Democratic crowd that ignored lower- and middle-income folks struggling to maintain their living standard. Hillary was a foil for Trump, Champion of Joe and Jane America.

The important thing is Trump was able to palm himself off as fighting for lower- and middle-income whites.

 

There really is no comparison between hospitals and schools, it's true.

Hospitals- dedicated professionals attending to the needs of children.

Schools- lazy selfish slackers who don't want to go back to work, and don't care about the kids.

 

So the folks you voted for have no ability to more perfectly secure our rights, which is the function and purpose of government in the United States? Why would you take pride is accomplishing absolutely nothing? Is this your form of virtue signalling? The first job of every politician is to get elected, if they aren't elected, that can't do a damn thing.

A MILLION HERE AND A MILLION THERE AND PRETTY SOON YOU’RE TALKING REAL CORRUPTION: COVID Bill Gives $570 Million Gift To The Teacher’s Unions.

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Smell that pork.

 

I knew you felt that way from your very first post.

Pardon the heck out of me if I don't share your hate for k-12 education.

 

And these bastards lecture us and private corporations on sound fiscal management?

 

Wow - you really got me curious with that "lecturing private corporations" thing.

Are you winding yourself up for an energetic defense of Trump's rampant crime spree?

 

All true. Schools in high-income communities can easily afford computer gear and a fast internet connection.

My niece is a middle school principal in Oregon and she made sure her students had tablets and internet.

 

Hohhhh-Kayyyy...

 

You've heard all the teachers on the hot mics.

You know it's true.

You can stop pretending.

 

My daughter is at a private school in the SF bay area.

They have had to help with internet access as well as computer gear, too. It doesn't matter what the average wealth is, there are always those who are struggling, working minimum wage jobs and less.

In Zoom based class it has been easy to determine that many of the students are spending that "class time" as day care for younger siblings.

 

As have most successful candidates since 1980.

 

Go ahead and make the argument that teachers are working really hard now because of distance learning.

This should be a hoot.

 

The chronic-truancy rates for "underprivileged students" utilizing distance learning is approaching 30%.

30%

Your absence from schools is devastating for kids in poor communities, teachers.

Take that for whatever you think it's worth.

 

They haven’t had to in awhile. For decades they could drop membership and only pay fair share dues to cover representation. Now they don’t have to pay anything. For some reason republicans like moochers.

 

It seems to depend on what the teacher is teaching based on what I'm seeing. It seems that if you're a math, language arts, or social studies teacher and most of the stuff is online, it's easier. Science is a bit iffy based on the teacher, same with PE. Most elective teachers have had to do a LOT of work to adapt their classes to online ed - art, dance, and band teachers especially. Special Ed and K-2 teachers have it the hardest while high school teachers have it easier than most. Grades 3-6 seem to have it a bit easier in some ways, harder in others. It was EXTREMELY hard for me to adapt my skills at first, and the calls home and emails were particularly trying, but I've got the hang of it now and it's a lot easier teaching online although I still spend more time working than I did before we went online and still have little time to post here. I'd still rather be at school although I admit I will miss being able to soak my feet while teaching when we go back.

 

This is why we need to be getting serious about protection for students, teachers and other school personell.

Saying, "open the schools" is certainly easy and a great sentiment. But, the first step has to be about making that environment stafe for those who will have to be there.

 

This much is true IMHO. My district started out last year with much the same truancy rates and we serve a pretty ghetto clientele. We dealt with it early on by sending out the local police, DCS, and suchlike to homes where very truant kids were for "visitations" - that took care of the issue pretty quickly. My classes - most of the time I have only one or two kids absent now and I've had many periods with perfect attendance but I've had to get pretty creative using both the carrot and stick. It ain't easy.

 

It's actually quite amazing how you've managed to get my intent completely wrong. Hmm ... if only these were some kind of search function that could prove your assumptions about me incorrect ...

I mean, I understand you disagreeing with LangleyMan as he is a staunch liberal, but geez -

 

For The Children "FIGHT THE POWER: West Virginia state senate passes legislation to ban teacher strikes."

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/434765/

 

Propaganda Alert!

Uh huh. Teachers make less than the national average salary.

https://www.business.org/hr/workforce-management/best-us-states-for-teachers/

Any wonder our schools suck?