1 in 4 Americans doesn't know earth orbits sun.

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  1. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually it doesn't. It would depend on their answer as to whether or not they got it wrong. (I did not read the article but....) 1 in 4 student apparently could be correct. Technically the earth and the sun and the rest of the planets orbit the center of mass of the entire solar system. The Earth exerts force on the sun and causes it to wobble. This is how they can tell other stars contain planets in their systems as well as how big they are...by calculating the wobble of the star. Since this center of mass is very near the sun because the sun contains most of the mass in our system, it is generally "close enough" for most people grasp as the center but it is in fact not. They all technically orbit each other around the central mass. If you swung a bowling ball on a rope around you, you would wobble but remain somewhat the center but you are in fact also orbiting the bowling ball. The real question is what does the Sun orbit and then what does that orbit, and then what does that orbit?
     
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    Sure, but these people are not that way because of religion, they are products of our city neighborhoods and schools
     
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    I didn't see where the 1 in 4 Americans who have an earth centric view of the universe were from the inner city, I would have thought they were more the product of home schooling or religious schools...like creationists
     
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    there simply are not enough of those people around.
     
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    Why do you think more Republicans are home schooled? I can see where most Muslims would be, they tend to keep to themselves, but not Republicans. Even religious schools teach the same thing public schools teach.

    This damn computer keeps skipping letters.
     
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    Really? Lol again my boys go to a religious school yet know about earth and our solar system and they know about creationism and evolution.
    I mean creationism is no different than Muslims thinking it's a sin to wear yellow or pluck their eyebrows. But of course the tolerant left chooses to attack the Catholics. Why so tolerant of other religions and not of others? Don't tell me it's because of the Catholics pushing their religion on you because I can show you several articles where muslims are pushing their beliefs on our public schools.
     
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    You don't need to know which orders which in order to join the army, do you?
     
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    less than 3 percent of children are home schooled in America, that doesn't add up to 1 in 4, I guess the government education system is letting loose some children who do not understand basic astronomy.
     
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    Wait, is that still going on? I thought we put a stop to that sort of thing?

    Why? Because that's socialism! And socialism/communism have been responsible for the deaths of millions. Is that really what you want for America?

    -Atem
     
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    No, I said there is no both. Try reading!
     
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    Lol, not to mention fractions and percentages a well!
     
  12. Riot

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    Doesn't the schools require evolution in their teachings? Do this kids not have to learn the states standards? If so than they are learning evolution or they would fail.
    Beside how do you know they aren't taught both?
     
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    http://creation.mobi/ct-evolution-textbooks
    Need more? Most homeschooling site I went to talk about evolution being taught along side with creationism if they were catholic.
     
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    Libs love socialism, except for funding schools alike. I guess this way they can keep the poor ones in the poor schools so not to get to educated and find out they really can make it on their own with just a little help and don't need the Democrats to keep them down.
     
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    I highly doubt that there is any form of socialism your average lib wouldn't lap up in an instant,
    but if you're right, then that is one spot where the libs got it right,
    as socialism, no matter where it gets applied, is an abomination!

    If students need help in schools, it should be up to their own parents to make sure that they get that help. I shouldn't have to pay for someone elses kid at all,
    but I especially shouldn't have to pay for them if I don't even live in the same neighborhood.

    -Atem
     
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    Again, I said there is no both. There is no teaching both and letting the students decide.

    They "shouldn't" be taught both, since it would be like teaching that 2+2=5 alongside 2+2=4. Should we teach both? And while we are at it, why not teach 2+2=6 and 2+2=7 and on and on? Should we focusing on teaching both, when in fact one is the correct answer?
     
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    I don't agree with that. Why should a poor school not get the same education as the richer schools? If they are all funded alike, they all have the same chance of a god education. Why should a poor kid not have the chance to learn on a computer because the school can't afford to buy them? Why should some teachers have to buy school supplies because that school doesn't get enough to buy them? That isn't fair at all. All children should have a chance to have the same quality of education as the other.

    Many rich parents don't help their kids with school work. You not funding someone else's kid. Your helping t fund all kid's education.
     
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    I don't care what the public school teaches. I have been referring to homeschooling and private. As long as evolution is part of the teachings I don't care if a Muslim family teaches their child yellow is evil and yawning is a sin. Which some do teach.
    Or a catholic teaches god farted the universe when Buddha pulled his finger. As long as they pass all requirement put forth by the state.
     
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    Why does it have it to be a part of the teaching?
     
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    It's not like that at all. Don't you think kids have a right to know why people believe two different ways the earth and life was formed? We are taught that Columbus discovered America. But others believe the Irish Monks and Vikings were here many years before Columbus. Shouldn't we explain why people believe differently?
     
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    Both shouldn't be taught, since one of them is clearly wrong.
     
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    That's just my beliefs. I'm a science type of guy. Kids should have both side of whatever their parents choose to teach them. Now in public separation of church and state should exist.
    I just can't stand the fact that progressives are hypocrites. They are quick to bash the Catholics beliefs but will never attack Moslems who are fairly close beliefs.
     
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    If I want to teach my kid that there is a god and his name is Jesus than why can't I ?
     
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    No, since one of them has no evidence. It would be like teaching my child about the Loch Ness monster, when that time could be better spent on teaching them things that we know or have evidence to back up.

    Evidently whether Columbus or the Vikings discovered america is up for debate. There is no debate over whether evolution occurred. Some will claim there is a debate over evolution being true, but there is not. The people just don't understand the evidence for ideological reasons or fear.
     
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    Why should you? Why waste your time on things you don't know if they are correct(or that you know are incorrect) compared to spending that time wisely and teaching them what you know to be correct?

    Can you? Sure you can, but why would you?
     

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