10 Absurd Claims Of Modern Flat Earth Conspiracy Theorists

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    I thought this might be fun on a Friday morning.. (and I am laid up with a broken foot anyways).


    10 Absurd Claims Of Modern Flat Earth Conspiracy Theorists

    http://listverse.com/2016/02/01/10-absurd-claims-of-modern-flat-earth-conspiracy-theorists/

    If you’ve never made the mistake of scrolling down into the comments section of a NASA video on YouTube, you’d be forgiven for having a shred of optimism left for the future of our world. Around 600 BC, the Greek philosopher Pythagoras started telling people that the Earth was a sphere.

    It seemed like a silly notion then. But as we know now, it was the first true step in understanding the nature of planetary behavior in the universe at large. By the Middle Ages, that knowledge was firmly entrenched in the annals of science. They still had to work out that the Earth wasn’t the center of the universe, much to Galileo’s dismay, but there was no question that it was a ball.

    Then, in the mid-1800s, Samuel Rowbotham came along and told everyone that they’d been wrong all along—the Earth was flat. Somehow, the idea picked up steam, and after a tumultuous century and a half, it hit the Internet in the form of the Flat Earth Society. And yes, they’re serious.

    The modern flat Earth conspiracy theory is much denser than most other theories, mainly because nobody can quite agree on what they believe. It’s a globular web of claims, counterclaims, ad hominem attacks on nonbelievers and believers alike, and denial of the scientific process to an extent that borders on neurosis.

    The only unifying belief within the theory is, in fact, belief in the theory. This leaves believers free to paint away from that core tenet in brush strokes wide enough to cover all the gaping cracks.

    NASA photos are faked.

    If nothing else, the mind-set engendered by flat-Earthers is at least admirable. It’s a sense of pioneering, of discovery, of showing the world that there’s always something more to uncover in life. Aristotle, Galileo, and all the great minds of history must have felt the same spark of excitement when faced with the mysteries of their own times.

    But some things are just stupid.

    One of the more popular flat Earth mantras is: “I don’t know know for sure that the Earth is flat, but until I see proof either way, it makes more sense than a globe Earth.” It’s insanity at its finest, the equivalent of spending your whole life in a house with windows and questioning the existence of your front lawn because you don’t have grass in your living room.

    It’s easy to see Earth from space. Just look at any of the countless ISS videos, or spend a few minutes watching a time-lapse video from Japan’s Himawari-8 satellite, which takes a photo of Earth every 10 minutes from 35,000 kilometers (22,000 mi) up.

    Check out that gorgeous Earthrise (pictured above) that William Anders snapped from the Moon in 1968 or the humbling perspective offered by the Cassini probe when it glanced back at our little blue dot on its trip past Saturn.

    According to the Flat Earth Society, those examples—and the millions like them—aren’t proof because they’re all fake. If you’ve ever wanted a reason to burn your computer, watch some videos like this one. (If you really want to punish yourself, read the comments.)

    The idea is that all the videos released by NASA, the ESA, the CNSA, Roscosmos, and all the other space agencies are simply computer graphics. Pictures are photoshopped. Of course, the flat-Earthers disregard the amount of time and money needed to make just one video like that, let alone days’ worth of continuous footage.

    Using the flat-Earthers’ conditional logic, if the Earth is flat and space images are fake (as flat-Earthers believe), then the world’s space agencies are lying about the Earth. And if an organization has spent 70 years—from 1946 to the present—creating fake images just to lie to people, they must have some kind of evil agenda. Otherwise, that’s a long joke even by Dane Cook standards.

    ISS Videos Are Shot In A Zero-G Plane

    Even if space pictures are fake, we still have to account for all the videos of weightless astronauts inside the International Space Station (ISS). According to flat Earth theory, these are faked, too.

    But this is a different, more blatant form of fakery. Rather than rely on CGI, most of these videos were filmed in parabolic flight, more commonly known as a zero-G airplane. Parabolic flight is real, of course, and it’s often used to train astronauts to deal with movement in microgravity.

    Greatly simplified, it’s when a plane enters a controlled descent that allows the people onboard to “float” inside the plane. You can ride one yourself if you have a little extra spending money lying around.

    But it takes a heroic leap of logic to assume that simply because it’s possible to do such a thing, NASA has spent more than half a century using it to counterfeit an entire public space program. The sheer number of videos spent picking apart this inane point is breathtaking.

    But this wouldn’t be a true flat Earth theory if there weren’t multiple, opposing viewpoints. So it’s also possible or even 100 percent confirmed (depending on whom you talk to) that NASA films their weightless astronauts under the ocean or in front of blue screens with wires that have been “computer graphicked out.”

    Antarctica Is An Impenetrable Ice Wall

    In the generally accepted flat Earth model, the world is a disc with the North Pole in the center. The outer rim is an unbroken ice wall that runs around the entire circumference of the Earth—Antarctica.

    For a visual, if the Earth was a pizza pie in this model, Antarctica would be the doughy crust. This ice wall serves to keep the Earth’s oceans from spilling away, and nobody knows what exists on the other side. There could be unknown wonders out there, or the ice could simply go on forever.

    Theories range from scientific speculation to religious fanaticism. One claim is that the Antarctic ice wall is surrounded by another ocean. Beyond that is “the forbidden continent, Antichtone.”

    Samuel Rowbotham gave up trying to guess and simply said, “Human ingress is barred by unsealed escarpments of perpetual ice, extending farther than eye or telescope can penetrate and becoming lost in gloom or darkness.”

    Considering that many explorers have traversed Antarctica and that the South Pole is now essentially a tourist destination, it’s impossible to imagine anyone still falling for the “escarpments of perpetual ice” line. But then again, impossible is just another Tuesday on a flat Earth.

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    NASA Was Founded By Nazis

    To the Flat Earth Society, NASA is the penultimate baddie. Throw a healthy mix of Freemasons, Illuminati, lizards, and satanic forces into a blender, dust your slurry with magic fairy powder, and let it ferment.

    In a week, you’ll end up with a fully formed NASA. The only thing worse is the people who control them. But since nobody’s ever taken a picture of those guys, we don’t know who to blame.

    However, it might be Nazis.

    To tell this tale, we need to travel back to the magical decade known as the 1940s. World War II was in full swing, and a young engineer named Wernher von Braun was building rockets for the Nazis. Von Braun is now famous for designing the V-2 ballistic missile that rained hellfire on London in 1944.

    After his surrender to the Allies in 1945, von Braun went to work for the US Army and became one of the pivotal figures in the creation of the fledgling US space program. Von Braun spearheaded the development of the Saturn V rocket that launched the Apollo shuttles. NASA has since called him “the greatest rocket scientist in history.”

    From these inauspicious beginnings came some of the greatest technological advances in history and a chance to finally dream of visiting new worlds. At least, depending on the shape of your planet.

    In flat Earth theory, NASA’s Nazi origins were just the start. The whole organization is nothing more than a “pack of professional liars, pseudoscientists, charlatans, Freemasons, and Mormons.” After all, “Apollo” is another name for Satan, right? What further proof do you need?

    All said and done, it’s that line of thinking that almost makes sense of this whole thing. Everyone needs someone to blame, whether it manifests as benign angst toward the government or vitriolic hate against the satanic Masonic warlocks who keep putting Matt Damon into great movies. If you have to change the literal shape of your world to finger a scapegoat for the unfocused discontent you feel with life, so be it.

    That’s just part of being human.
     
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    Just ask a FlatEarther if they have ever taken an international flight.
     
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    Oranges too, only appear to be round, when in fact they are flat, and life is just an illusion. ;-)
     
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    They have an answer for that too.. Its all faked and photo shopped by China, the US, the Europeans for the past 60 years.
     
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    is this a strawman thread, or an attempt to correlate 'flat earth' with some other thing? Is anyone actually promoting 'flat earth'? Or, are you just picking a 'debate' that you are sure you can win?
    :D
     
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    We have a poster that has been claiming the earth is flat for days.
     
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    Ah.. that explains it, then. Funny you would start a whole thread just to refute the wild imaginings of a single poster.. ..maybe you're just the victim of troll bait..
     
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    That is a distinct possibility.........
     
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    They must have asked to use the Moon Landing technology we developed.
     
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    The Earth is flat and the Illuminati are putting donuts in chemtrails to fatten us up so they can eat us.......
     
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    Flat Earth mockery is based on a "lack of understanding"
    a position they claim the high ground.

    Is any Flat Earth critic aware of the idea that satellites, astronauts, space stations do not orbit a spherical Earth.
    They spin around it like a speck on a plastic, LP record on a phonograph.

    All Hail The Spherical Earth and Vaccinations are safe too.
    Lord Science says it is so. :worship:
     
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    Just a nitpick for thread participants: The Earth is an oblate spheroid, not a sphere.
     
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    No, there are many who are really into it. There are in depth presentations explaining it.
     
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    Don't worry about it at least Santa Claus is real.
     
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    The flat earther turned around and said the earth was flat and Christians don't worship science..
     
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    Oh it's alive and well.

    www.theflatearthsociety.org

    I'm a member there. I call myself luke 22-35-38 there. I'm on the globe side.
     
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    I was under the impression that these were parodies.. funny bits of 'reasoning' to poke a little fun at the seriousness of the academic elite.
    That is how they have always been presented, in my memory of them.
     
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    If they are they are trolls who are doing a good job at being stupid.
     
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    But if the earth were shrunken down to the size of a basketball, we wouldn't notice the oblateness. It's pretty minor. Or in other words, for most practical purposes, the earth is a sphere.
     
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    All that stuff is CGI regardless of the fact there was no CGI in 1969.
     
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    Or was there ?

    Just because I am a conspiracist
    Doesn't mean it isn't.



    Moi :oldman:
    Yes to the skull dissolving shot
    coming from the Grassy Knoll.


    r > g

    Witness

    [video=youtube;XEaFLdK_e64]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEaFLdK_e64[/video]

    Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
     
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    If you shrank the earth to the size of a cue ball the earth would be rounder and smoother than the cue ball.
     

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