11-year-old Mississippi boy who called 911-- wait for it-- shot by responding officer:

Where, South Africa? Not in the United States.

The only one showing that is you

Actually, it does show it
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2022/12/22/policing_survey/
There is a link in the above report

No, you should use both

 

No one said the do.
What has been said is that police, by and large, act with force more often with people of color.

 

Except BLM isn't a terroist group.
You are following the exact formula that leads to violence against people of color.

 

BLM was full of anarchists, thugs, mopes, and basic criminals.

 

that's actually not true and given the violent crime rate of blacks, its proportionately even less

 

It's possible the child might have had something black colored in his hand that appeared to the officer like it may have been a gun.
Perhaps the hall was dimly lit and the officer could not see clearly.

 

True

 

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Some good points here

 

interestingly enough, the people who tend to bash the police are the same people who think only police should have legal weapons. It's a crappy job and we don't know what happened yet. but if someone has a gun and you hesitate, you might well get shot. and kids have shot police

 

I gave a link in another post that proves my point

 

ok? Don't know where you get your info but do you think just saying that makes them a terrorist organization?

 

Their track record of a summer of Nationwide riots and the death of multiple people and billions of dollars in damages is a pretty good indicator.

If that wasn't enough seeing how the administrators of the administration have enriched themselves from it.... That's another good indicator that they're not on the up and up

 

OK, that's fine; I had thought you'd been questioning my statement-- in which case, it would be you, who was "making the claim," that my statement was false. The assessment, as I've mentioned, that police treat blacks, and other minorities/deviant groups (homeless; mental afflictions), differently than they do, those in mainstream, white society, is largely believed. So if you were claiming that is a widely believed fallacy, obviously that burden of proof would be on you.

But I am interested in knowing, when I am wrong; as you see, I did do a little looking, and so acknowledged that it is not just blacks, who are treated this way. Yet looking through every article, would not only be a major project but, if I eventually got around to it, this would obviously take some time. So, in lieu of contradictory evidence, I will continue to maintain, for now, that police culture tends to treat minorities, and especially blacks, in a less respectful, and excessively aggressive manner.

If and when I come upon the story of the unarmed white kid, however, shot for following a cop's instructions of holding up his empty hands, or walking down the hall, to exit his own home, I will let you know.

 

I'm a retired police officer. I agree with this.

The men and women I worked with for over 3 decades were honorable and uncommonly brave and steady under stress. I can tell you that this incident (and others that we deplore) are not a result of "police culture." They are the result of any one or combination of other things: negligent hiring, poor initial training, poor ongoing training, poor supervision, negligent retention, and poor leadership.

I would bet you a paycheck that at least one of these failures apply in this case.

 

Oh, please.

 

By that logic-- excusing the shooting of anyone who could potentially shoot them-- cops would be justified in shooting every person they encounter, who has at least one arm.

I think the standard has to be a little bit higher than, there having been any precedent of a kid shooting a cop, to justify all kids then, being gunned down, on sight.

 

Questioning your statement does not equal that the onus now falls on to me as "making a claim"

That's not how that works. It's your claim and just because people question your claim does not now mean that it is no longer your claim.

You know better than that.

 

Cancelled check!

Your anecdote has zero applicability, here. Did you not see the picture of the boy, in the OP? At 4 AM, he was probably wearing his PJs. But even had he been dressed-- look at his style: what "gang" has the colors of blue & white, plaid shirts, and yellow pants? Even if those are beige slacks, reflecting yellow light, the point remains, of how absurd is your speculation, that this kid was wearing a gang jacket; or that this, in itself, would even justify shooting people, on sight.

But if your thinking this, kept you from feeling "bad," that's all that is really important.

 

And yet they aren't considered terroists. They also weren't the only ones rioting.

Again, doesn't make them terrorists, just bad at cash flow. They should be in Congress.

 

that's idiotic. we don't know the facts in this specific case either.

 

I'll withhold judgement until the video is released showcasing the other side of the story which is the responsible thing to do.

 

You are the one, who'd put forth that idiotic rationale:

Turtledude said: ↑
... . but if someone has a gun and you hesitate, you might well get shot. and kids have shot police

 

Since we don't have all the information, here is my theory:
The cop was sent to a domestic desturbance at 4 in the morning. The call was from a kid so naturally, a cop would be on high alert since there is some reason that an adult wasn't physically able to make the call and the word "irate" got used at some point. The cop come in ready for any very dangerous scenario and when the kid comes around the corner, the nervous cop gets very jumpy and pulls the trigger.
Some important questions:
Was the cop new to the force and did he have backup?
They said it was 2 to three minutes between when the cop told everyone to come out of the house and when the kid comes around the corner. That is a long time in a touchy situation. Why did it take so long?
Why did they let the Dad go? This fu**er needs to be in jail. If he wasn't being an idiot, the police wouldn't have ever been involved.


Disclaimer: I am in no way giving the cop a pass. It may have been an accident but these kinds of accidents aren't allowed in that job. Moral of the story: Don't do stupid stuff that causes engagements with the cops and don't be around those that do.

 

how many gun fights have you been in? what actually is your level of training in this area? You don't know the facts yet, but you want to blame the police. I say let's see what the facts are. I don't lionize the police. I constantly note that private citizens are less likely to shoot the wrong person (usually because the private citizen is the victim of the perpetrator and damn well knows who the bad guy is) and more likely to hit a bad guy than police are. Many police are not exactly what I call expert shooters. But I don't have a hard on for the police. I don't scream they "racists" or "fascists" like so many on the left do