11-year-old, upset at having to clean room, shoots grandmother before killing self/MOD WARNING

A HUGE amount of evidence has been posted.

The reaction?

Nothing but deflection.

But the factual reality of the dangers of gun ownership to households persists.

What kind of a person puts their household at GREATER risk of gun violence by introducing a deadly device into it?

 

Read the thread, do a forum search, use Google.

The evidence of the GREATER dangers of gun-owning households are out there pretty much everywhere for anyone sincerely seeking the truth.

 

If only a good guy with a car was nearby to run over the 11 year old.

 

So what is your plan?

 

I thought you opposed ignorance?

 

^ Thread win.

 

Huh?

To keep posting & stuff?

To have a sandwich?

 

Wha'?

 

Yep, a repeat of 2000-20008. When will R's ever learn?

 

No evidence, just opinions. Opinions are not evidence.

 

Given the choice between accepting and discussing the tragic consequences of household gun ownership, or literally ignoring the truth, the latter is chosen.

 

Completely false. Mountains of evidence have been posted, but ignored or attacked, as is generally the case.

But the truth, and the tragedies awaiting gun-owning households, remains.

 

I don't understand this sentence; typo/s? This thread is about yet another tragedy in a gun-owning household; I'm more than willing to discuss this, but the personal attacks must cease. The personal attacks must cease.

 

Huh? The truth is the truth; analogies sometimes help those willing to grapple with difficult truths to do so. Ho ho.

Perhaps not all autos, but reliance on them would ideally be greatly reduced, as they do a staggering amount of direct and indirect harm, but this is not the subject of the thread, and you've created a straw man to attack as a diversion from the tragic truth. Well, it's your argument, not one I made, so perhaps take your conclusion under advisement, including incoherence and your introduction of yet another false claim. Ironic indeed, but the personal attacks must cease.

 

Yes the truth is the truth. If no one had guns, there would be no gun deaths. And if no one had cars the same applies. So take all of the cars away, and be consistent in your manner of solving a problem. That is all that I am saying. Of course, to do that isn't gonna happen, for either guns or cars. So why waste the time calling for it? ha ha.

For anyone to want to take away the right to own a gun, when less than one percent of gun owners are irresponsible when it comes to that Right, is just what one expects from idiots. Low IQ, or very emotionally unstable intellects. IMO No matter how many analogies one tries to use.

 

This is just one of the millions of households that were safer because of "household gun ownership":

"Illinois man armed with AR-15 stops knife attack by neighbor"
http://whnt.com/2018/02/27/man-armed-with-ar-15-stops-knife-attack-by-neighbor/

EXCERPT ""The AR-15 is my weapon of choice for home protection," Thomas said. "It's light, it's maneuverable. If you train and know how to use it properly, it's not dangerous. And this is just a perfect example of good guy with an AR-15 stopped a bad guy with a knife. And there were no lives taken, so, all in all, it was a good day."CONTINUED


I am just one of the millions of Americans who is alive today only because of my right to own and carry a firearm and have yet to experience a tragedy resulting from gun ownership.

There are basically 4 groups of people who push for disarming law abiding citizens:

1. Criminals
2. The naive & inexperienced
3. Elitists who can afford armed protection
4. Dictators & supporters of totalitarian regimes

 

Except for the fact that there were no personal attacks to be had.

Get to elaborating on precisely what the plan on the part of yourself entails, now that awareness on the matter has been achieved. Demonstrate that there is indeed legitimacy on the part of yourself in this matter, and that it is not mindless repetition of the same circular logic talking point.

 

Opinions are not evidence.