2/28: Stand Up to the Organized Suppression of Occupy

This is a call to action for all those who have supported Occupy in these last several months since it emerged. A powerful protest action is required urgently to save the remaining Occupy encampments by showing that we are committed to this movement in the face of yes organized state attack. For those who continue to question whether the recent suppression of our movement has been an organized, systematic one, this quote from the article (which is a simple statement of fact) should put such questions to rest once and for all:

"...the mayor of Oakland admitted on BBC to being part of conference calls that coordinated national strategy against the occupiers. On top of all that, and in another blatant show of illegitimate force and power, they attempted to prevent journalists and photographers from covering these acts of repression—unless they were “embedded” with the police."

Read the article, sign the call, and attend!

 

The conference calls and "coordinated national strategy" all amounted to nothing more than city mayors from all across the country getting in touch with each other to brainstorm ideas from each other on how the mayors from other cities had successfully gotten rid of you termites at the least amount of cost and human life. Because even you jobless termite bums have human rights too.

Now go and find a job, Polly Minx. Put that library computer to better use than posting here.

 

While i support their rights to assemble and protest could you briefly describe their objectives and solutions to the issues they are protesting about? Please do this without using 99% or 1%.

 

Why don't you get a clue and find out what you are ostensibly "supporting"?
Or is that just a load of twaddle?

 

I believe in the Constitution. I can support their right to protest without supporting why they are protesting. Its (*)(*)(*)(*)ing simple.

 

Well I for one support economic freedom for everyone regardless of wealth or other social class. Such economic freedom will come at a human cost, but everything does and its better to attend the problems of too much liberty, than not enough.

The 1% never did anything to me except help me. I know for (*)(*)(*)(*) sure Obama and Democrats never lifted a finger to help me and when I accurately show them that I could actively be hurt by Democrat policies I'm told flat out that I'm being sacrificed for those deemed more important than I am in progressive ideology and that I should be grateful to society for lowering my quality of life so that others less fortunate than I am may raise theirs.

 

They only "help" those who are of economic benefit to them. Once you pass a certain age, or demand too much for your services you are no longer going to see that "help" any more.

Experience and age are now completely detrimental in the job market. There's a bias against older workers that is supposed to be illegal, but like many things simply gets shoved under the carpet.

Many employers place little value in experience, in particular long term employees at their own facilities. What is happening more and more is that as cost of living increases add up over a few years it's cheaper to fire the long term employee and hire someone new at the starting wage.

This is becoming common place as wages have stagnated. Starting wages at a Whirlpool Plant that I live nearby have stayed at 9 bucks an hour for temps, and 11 bucks an hour for full time hires for the last 20 years, with zero movement. They encourage turn over so that they don't get many employees at the top pay rate for very long except in very specialized areas, and even those don't hold up all the time.

This is just one example, but I see this all the time in service industries, manufacturing etc...

The myth that the 1% create jobs, and that the tax breaks that are given them trickle down are a lie. It's hidden by the cut throat economy we live in now, where progression is attained by switching employers on a regular basis rather than working for the same company for 30-40 years and retiring.

Employees have become a commodity that looses value to the employer over time. Employees with tenure are now seen as a detriment in many cases, with some rare exceptions being management.

Give yourself time Silicon, after a while all the "help" you've been given will dry up as you are also seen as a detriment, and are shown the door to have to start your career all over again.

 

Statists complaining about 'organized suppression' by statists while demanding statists be given more power to rob Peter to pay Paul.

cognative dissonance at its finest.

 

So then, why the smarmy comment?
If you support the right to protest on principle, why do you care about the details?
Just be honest and say what you really think. Don't feign ignorance.

 

Unlike you i am not here to troll. I wanted to know what a OWS protester thought firsthand instead of reading about it from some talking head from the media.

Of course i care about the details. Its why i asked for them... You really are not having a good morning are you. Take it out one someone else thanks.

 

This particular action is intended to show our willingness to stand up to organized suppression. It is intended to stop the systematic violation of our rights to free speech and freedom of assembly.

As far what the Occupy movement itself is all about, essentially class and fairness. People involved in Occupy believe that the current socio-economic arrangements are rigged in the favor of a super-rich elite and seek to end said situation. It's a diverse bunch, so the preferred means and ultimate aims differ a lot. Probably a majority of Occupiers are ordinary reformists who belong to the Democratic Party. (Polls indicate that our support mostly comes from the same sort of demographic groups that disproportionately vote for Democrats: women, the youth, black people, trade unionists, etc., which isn't likely a pure coincidence. There seems to be quite a bit of overlap.) But there's also a very significant minority that is socialist or communist. We even have some libertarians (yep, Ron Paul supporters) and a small handful of conservatives. I think the Citizens United case from 2010 and the failure of the government to prosecute the financial criminals responsible for the Great Recession are two of the most unifying issues within the movement. There is an almost unanimous view here that those things are wrong. The founders of the movement considered it a logical extension of the democratic Arab Spring revolutionary wave to the USA. Instead of upending formal dictators though, Occupiers seek to upend a condition of financial aristocracy. And now Occupy itself is its own international movement.

In other words, no one poorer than you has First Amendment rights as far as you're concerned.

1) I'm a teacher. I have a job.

2) Even if I didn't (and many Occupiers are, in fact, unemployed), what would be your point in demeaning me for that? Frankly, there are a whole lot of people who are unemployed right now through no fault of their own. One would think you'd be a little more sensitive to such matters, particularly at a time like this.

 

what an EXCELLENT example. I won't even call into question the validity of your claim that it has been the same for 20 years. Let's allow you that without corroborating facts.

If that is the case, and it's common knowledge, then the workers know that when they take the job and should be motivated to improve their skills or move on to a different job.

It's called market value and if there are workers willing to take the job at that wage then it must be market value

Or, do you think just because they work there they are ENTITLED to more than market value?

 

RP-12 is correct.

You didn't offer any new ideas here except to tell us that you still don't like conservatives.

You were trolling.

 

Its not organized, people just really dont like rapists, thieves, and murderers...

 

I hope you don't discuss Occupy with your students. Your profile says Vermont so it doesn't surprise me that you would be pro Occupy. How is the peoples socialist republic of Vermont these days? Have they figured out yet how to actually pay for the free health that the liberal state reps apporoved?

 

What you should be protesting is the incompetent public teachers and their corrupt union that puts the teachers ahead of the children.

The poor cannot catch up with the rich when they can barely read and write.

 

Oh I see.

You are one of the public teachers.

No wonder you are not protesting yourself.

 

Is there a common thought process towards a solution?

 

Lol...By that logic, every one of your posts is trolling.

 

and defacating in public, attracting rats and vermin, leaving babies unattended, etc etc

 

It's called failure. The Left's Tea Party never took off. It will be remembered for lawlessness, violence, and filth.


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Care to address the thread topic? What are your thoughts on the OWS movement?

 

Your movement is comprised of deadbeats, anarchists, degenerates, and 60's hippie wannabes. It never had credibility. At best, it's an annoyance that should simply go away, but as it has devolved more and more into a violent mob, it is more of a criminal element than anything else. Most of America doesn't care, and the ones that do would like OWS to **** and go away.

 

She is a self-proclaimed socialist as well. Really a poster child for home-schooling. I know I wouldn't allow my kids to be taught in such a classroom.

Yep, definitely wouldn't have my kids in that classroom.

 

They should occupy a bathtub first. Then, they may be able to land one of those trendy Starbucks Barista jobs.


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