2013 Atlantic non hurricane season

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  1. Dingo

    Dingo New Member

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    Do you know what greenhouse gas is?

    Didn't think so.
     
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    I think we have proven here that I have more knowledge about this subject and science in general in my little finger than you do in your entire body.

    If you cant understand why temperature follows CO2 than its worse than I thought.
     
  3. Dingo

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    I'm more ignorant than a denialist? Humble and limited as I am, that's a bridge too far. LOL

    I think you meant the opposite or maybe you just haven't settled on which one way street you want to follow. In fact it works both ways - duh!

    I suggest you study ghgs mensa man.
     
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    I would be more than happy to see you graph CO2 levels vs temperature changes on a timeline of 12,000 years before present. Provide sources for the data of course but feel free to use any temperature proxy study for the graph. If you could do that simple task it would go a long way t o convincing me you are right

    Don' feel too bad you can't though. Even Lacis can only get it to correlate by going no farther back than the beginning of the industrial age which just happened to coincide withe the end of the maunder minimum cycle

    http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/lacis_01/
     
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    Some possible reasons for anomaly
    1. Earth shift in orientation toward sun beginning in interglacial causing cooling.
    2. Momentum effect of continued glacial melting causing weakened albedo
    3. Various forcings like volcanoes.
    4. Possibly early human tree clearing and possible coal burning. Evidence of human urban life goes back 9,000 years.
     
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    Typhoons were off the hook, in 2013.

    The neutral ENSO yields a northern jet, which zags, downward, through the middle, of the US, to blow off Atlantic storms.

    I guess you missed ABC weather, with Ginger ZEE. Get a clue.

    So what, about no Sandy-superstorms, in 2013?

    The rest of the world ate terrible cyclones, tornadoes and derechos are off the hook, in the US, and as soon as ENSO flips or flops, you guys west of the Rockies are gonna chow, on another Sandy or Hugo or WORSE.
     
  8. Earthling

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    That's much like saying the tide will come in again.
     
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    . . . which it will, including as algae blooms, when the CO2 and warm currents really get going.
     
  10. Earthling

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    Maybe I should have said that future extreme weather events are as much of a racing certainty as sunrise, only not quite as predictable.
     
  11. bobgnote

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    What is observable is extreme weather events are increasing, in both severity and occurrence.

    Days are actually growing longer, as the Earth's rotation slows, from gravitational influences, primarily from the Moon, which is easing away.

    Red sky, at morning will happen, soon enough.
     
  12. Earthling

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    False, unless you can prove it, of course, which you can't, because it's not factual.
     
  13. Earthling

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    Globally we are at 70% of normal for Accumulated Cyclone Energy so I doubt that could be called "off the hook".

    http://models.weatherbell.com/tropical.php

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  15. Bowerbird

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    Don't confuse bad journalism with good science - this is an opinion piece in that there is no data to back up what he is saying

    Meantime let us look at some actual data

    http://www.skepticalscience.com/extreme-weather-global-warming-intermediate.htm
     
  16. Earthling

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    Why not, you seem to believe everything the SS website posts?

    It's all there if you want to find it.

    All of them opinion pieces.
     
  17. Bowerbird

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    Why not - it is academically written with solid academic references throughout. Meanwhile people like Joanova fill websites with opinions, cherry picked data and contradictory rubbish
    Must be invisible - so tell me - where were those academic references?
    AH! Confusion then between what is academic data and what is opinion
     

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