2016 Trump Tower Meeting Looks Increasingly Like a Setup by Russian and Clinton Operatives

Please provide the proof of the Trump campaign PAYING THE KREMLIN for DIRT, and SETTING up a BOGUS MEETING WITRH THEIR OPERATIVE through a PAID SPY GROUP...IOW backup your bullshit.

 

And the Russian woman met with Simpson (fusion GPS) the day before and the day after the trump tower meeting to add heft to the dossier.
She wasn’t even supposed to be in country, her visa had been yanked, it took Loretta Lynch to get it reinstated.

 

We watched leftists urinate on the rule of law for eight years under Obama. So peddle that to to another . . . typical . . . leftist.

 

Sounds like your bullshit. Feel free to back it up at your leisure.

 

You watched paranoid right-wing fantasies being depicted as reality, then. Not my problem, not the Democrats' problem.

 

You might consider actually addressing the points made in the OP instead of childish DODGES like the above post.

As I said: As always, the left DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE CRIMES COMMITTED BY THEIR LEADERS...JUST THAT THEY GET AWAY WITH THEM. PERIOD.

 

See. Even you know you cannot backup your BULLSHIT....

 

Opposition research from Russia which in case Trump supporters have forgotten is an enemy of America.

 

Because Donald Trump Jr. and Jared Kushner are as dumb as a box of rocks and would be incapable of planning such an event?

 

Even DNI Dan Coats has said he doesn't know what happened in Helsinki, so we don't know what Trump obligated the US to do in that meeting. Why on earth would the Director of National Intelligence not be told what happened in that meeting? He's supposed to know of any threats to the nation, and Putin's Russia is certainly a threat to this nation. People look at Trump's meetings with Putin and Kim Jong Un suspiciously because Trump lies.

I can think of lots more reprehensible people than Sally Yates. Just what would you expect patriotic people in the Department of Justice do, when they uncover illegally unregistered foreign agents lying about their foreign contacts?

The FBI DID NOT determine that Flynn didn't lie. What they determined is that he controlled his body language while lying, so that his body language didn't give away the fact that he was lying. They had him recorded saying something he then denied saying. Flynn is a liar, a conspirator, and a would-be kidnapper.

Republicans did lie about the tax cut. They didn't tell us it wasn't big enough. Trump said it was the largest tax cut in history, even though that was a lie. If they wanted less spending, they could have cut spending without the tax cut. The truth is, they actually raised spending. Don't you remember that Trump insisted on more money for defense? Sometimes I wonder if you actually follow the news.

Congress can impeach for virtually anything. It doesn't even require a felony- that's why in impeachment requirements, it says "high crimes and misdemeanors." Bill Clinton was impeached because he lied about an extramarital affair. Because the impeachment was seen as partisan, the Senate didn't remove him from office. Trump has violated US law from the instant he took the oath of office, and Congress hasn't done one thing about it. If you think this mess with Trump is a mockery of justice, I don't know what to tell you. People either see it or they don't, and by this time, if they don't see it, it's because they don't want to. Most Americans see it, and believe the FBI over Trump.

If the states were consistent, we wouldn't need a federal government much. However, we are a mobile people with an interstate highway system, and easily move between states. Some laws need to apply to all consistently, and that takes federal oversight. Do you honestly think states can care for their elderly and poor, by themselves? If they could, Social Security wouldn't have been necessary. There are also things like wild fires, hurricanes, tornados, floods, environmental disasters, etc, that require more than an individual state can manage to do, if one of those things hits. If you concentrate on the palace intrigue and forget about very important things the federal government does, perhaps you can believe that Washington is an albatross. However, remember that those things were put in place to solve a very real problem impacting the American people.

 

You know your right when the usual deflection team comes at you full blast. Nothing in the form of proof or anything , just trying to ridicule. I wonder what they get paid ?

 

It's true. The Trumps NEVER acknoweledged attending the meeting to get dirt on Hillary. LIES, all LIES. LOL

 

You mean like this?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna830596

 

That he 'controlled his body language'. That's a unique spin of cloth from the FBI(or more specifically from Mueller's team.) I think more realistically, they can't prove a malicious intent in the 'lie' and at this point, it's to make it look better then it actually does. Except it doesn't. You've got these people on lying charges, so what. Rosenstein declared an open investigation based on the conspiracy theory. He has no choice but to validate the conspiracy theory. Failure to do so, meant that he wasted the better part of these two years, and the special prosecutor for absolutely nothing.

It's the theory or bust, I won't accept this idea of numbers as somehow being validating the investigation. The theory is the biggest claim ever against a POTUS. You gotta bring it home. If they fail to bring it home, if they fail to validate it before a court of public opinion and the courts themselves then there's major reform on the table to make sure this doesn't happen again.

Trump wasn't very happy with the bill(well, after backlash from his supporters.) I myself said the bill was very flawed. Maybe I should have said independents/trump supporters knew from the start that the bill did not achieve our objectives.

 

The op makes no points, and ignores the million dollar questions
How did Hillary know russia wanted to help trump and why would she facilitate that?

 

And yet, Trump's team insists they weren't given such a warning. Now, consider that the FBI has tried(and failed miserably) to cover up its ass since they had the stupidity to chase this tail. Both sides have lied, but I think I'll take the guy who would've been at the supposed meeting. He has less to gain from lying about whether or not the FBI told him there was possible infiltration.

 

No collusion. And if there was any, it was not illegal. LOL

I really don't get why the Trump folks engage in this delusion. Really, there was nothing illegal in the boychinkins and Manafort accepting the meeting with know Kremlin "lobbyists."

The only illegality is if they knowingly accepted some dirt of Hillary from Russia and, worse, if they paid the Russian govt for it. And if the information was illegally obtained, that would be another problem.

But no one seems to say the Ruskies actually gave them anything. Reagan may have met with Tehran in 1980. Nothing wrong with that.

 

Paying the Russians for dirt...like the Hillary Campaign did, and lied about for over a year...

 

Frankly, what you think is more realistic doesn't matter. I get that people interpret things, but it's in the Congressional transcripts and Comey was under oath when he said…

What's more important is that Flynn has pleaded guilty. He's had the time and opportunity to change his plea, and hasn't. He's not even challenging what you are… that he didn't lie. He did lie, to the FBI, and that is a felony. He did MUCH worse things too, but instead of being held accountable for the MUCH worse crimes, like conspiracy to kidnap, he chose to plead guilty to lying to the FBI.

Trump was not happy with the spending bill, not the tax cut. He said he wouldn't sign another spending bill like the one he signed this last time. He LOVES the tax cut. He LOVED the tax cut right up to the point that the middle class figured out they were lied to, and the unpopular tax cut became even more unpopular.

 

Everything else here aside, why don't you tell us what this tax cut "lie" is. I'd love to know.

 

Hilarious!!!!

You don't get much more far fetched than this!!!

Out of one side of the Trumpster mouth comes the usual denial that the Russia conspiracy idea is not valid and ridiculously complicated.

Instead we have an even more elaborate conspiracy theory that suggests that Clinton's forces set the Trump people up.

First of all, there had already been plenty of contact between various Russians and the Trump team before the meeting. And Paul Manafort was well known to the Russians, having carried a lot of their cash into Ukraine to prop up the strong man Putin had installed there. He was at that meeting.

Of course, what makes this entire farce of a theory fall apart is the fact that Browder, Glen Simpson and Hillary Clinton did not force the Trump campaign team to take a meeting in which they believed that they were going to be given information that would materially affect a US Presidential election.

No one forced them at all.

But when you rely on an obscure right wing blog run by a Fox news model, quoting another even more obscure right wing blog for youor "Facts" hilarious is what you get!

 

Sinclair and Fox......now that's "real" journalism!

Nothing like regurgitating fantasies from right wing blogs and calling it "news".

 

Wait...this is it? This is the big 'lie'? LMAO. Read that lie, and tell yourself: Why the hell would a prosecutor go for such low-bait. Now I know why Trump said Flynn didn't have to lie. He didn't. He was a part of the transition team, and it only makes sense for the incoming administration to want to deal with a clean plate.

This is very similar to the Iranian Hostage crisis, where Reagan refused to comment for fear of interfering with ongoing negotiations with then-president Jimmy Carter. This is a very similar scenario in this 'lie'.

Obviously, pleaing guilty to this is better than conspiracy to kidnap but why bother with this, when there are serious crimes(as you point out) that he could go for? I don't know, and I particularly don't care but this 'lie' is a waste of prosecutorial time. It's a lie that hurts no one, a lie that doesn't hurt the FBI and it goes back to Yates's witch hunt in the first place. Had there been no interview, there wouldn't have been a 'lie'.

 

The only reason there was ever an interview, and thus ever a 'lie' is due to the belief of 'Russian blackmail' of Flynn ROFL. This trial is a waste of US taxpayer dollars. A lie that didn't have to be told, an 'investigation' into Flynn's statements that was utterly unnecessary. Throughout this whole thing, I wasn't quite clear on what the 'lie' was(that is to say, I didn't know precisely what Mueller was charging Flynn of lying on.). Having now known it. Guilty or not, this is another case of America court syndrome where we send everyone and anyone to court over the tiniest of offenses or civil lawsuits. Another area I'd love to reform.

 

That's easy… it's just like the lie "You can keep your doctor."

Republicans told the public that the tax cut would spur so much growth in the economy that it would pay for itself, despite every reputable economist, the Joint Committee on Taxation, Penn Wharton Budget Model, the Tax Foundation, and the Congressional Budget Office saying that it wouldn't, but would add significantly to the deficit and debt. So far, it hasn't paid for itself, and there is no projection that shows it will.