21 million Americans say Biden is ‘illegitimate’ and Trump should be restored by violence

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  1. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

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    That was kinda funny, so you get an LO.... ;-)

    I don't drink Kool-Aid. Never have. It looks gross and the carpet cleaner I hired said that he would NEVER give it to his kids because it's the only stain known to man that can't be cleaned from carpets.
     
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  2. LangleyMan

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    No, it applies mathematics. You guys tend to talk trash things you don't understand.

    Take ten minutes and learn...

    https://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm
     
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    Biden and Trump have been disasters ... are you ready to explore 3rd parties yet or are your colors permanent? ...
     
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  4. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you can’t base something with a survey size of less than 0.05 percent! I don’t care how many links you send
    Your math failed and you keep digging the hole deeper
    You might just want to cut your losses on this one
    Just some friendly advice
     
  5. Quantum Nerd

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    Why do you even dispute that number. If Biden actually stole the election, as you claim, then the 21 million would be in their perfect right to protest it, even with civil unrest. Now, the reason they don't says to me that they don't even really believe themselves that the election was stolen. They just want to use the moniker to keep crying "Biden bad".
     
  6. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I’m only saying that 1070 is an extremely small percentage of 21,000,000
    It comes out to a decimal
    I also never said Biden stole anything, he barely has the mental skills to steal a tootsie roll from a supermarket
     
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  7. LangleyMan

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    A sample size of a little over 1000 will get a result within 3% either way from what you would get if you asked everyone, 19 times out of 20.
    C6793A62-C0B3-47BA-821C-B9D058492B65.jpeg

    Read: https://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm

    As for a survey about approval of violence, I would like to see the question even assuming the sample was random. Substitute "believe" for "feel" in an opinion question and you often get a different result. "Do you believe people should be vaccinated?" and "Do you feel people should be vaccinated?" are likely to get different responses.
     
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  8. Quantum Nerd

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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...stewards-of-democracy.592266/#post-1072951282

    So cheating in an election (as you claim the Dems did) isn't stealing it? What's the difference?
     
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    I don't want to convince them. That's 21 million crazy conservatives who are out of the picture
     
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    Did you read my cite?
     
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    How funny... from your own link ...
    A recent Washington demonstration supporting those charged with crimes for the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol fizzled, with no more than 200 demonstrators showing up. The organizers had promised 700 people would turn out – or more.
    What the joke is .... 700 did show up.... 500 were FBI on undercover plants... like Jan. 6 had.

    [​IMG]
     
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    From a company called "Creative Research Systems', it takes some control not to laugh while typing it. Sorry, not accepting that a survey of 1070 people is an effective example of 21 million people. .000051 according to my calculator.

    I didn't bother to dig too far on the group that did this, but did they specify where their 'random' group was from, geographically? Demographics in regards to age, political position, gender, income, racial make up? How were they screened?

    I'm glad we agree on the ability to sway results based on the phrasing of the question. Semantics matter.
     
  14. MJ Davies

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    Wait. What? I love Tootsie rolls. Not too keen on being convicted and incarcerated but Tootsie rolls might be worth it! ;-)
     
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    One way would be Trump winning the next election.
     
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    a black Trump, "and some of them I suppose are good people...."

    we all need to call this stuff out, regardless of party
     
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    And so is covering up an election fraud.
     
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    4 more years of Trump could destroy this country
     
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    yep, Trump tried and tried to cheat... failed every time

    why anyone on the right would give him a mulligan is beyond me
     
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  20. Pycckia

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    Heck, 28% of DemocRats believed that Putin hacked the voting machines.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-the-election-tallies-is-doing-putins-bidding

    https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a28517486/russia-hack-election-systems-all-50-states/

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/15/white-house-putin-russia-hacking-us-election-trump
     
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  21. Pycckia

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    Not if Biden does it first.
     
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    I assume this was an IQ test for the 21 million and 47 million...and all of them failed?
     
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    You're ignoring high school mathematics.

    Creative Research Systems is a business, not a leftwing think tank.
    I have no idea how they conducted their survey. Before I would even consider touting the results, I would need to know the details.
    You can mess with the questions and the sample. Both sides do it.
     
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    Bwahahaha...people are dumb. I had a conversation with a crazy dude in a parking lot a while back, who was dead serious when he was telling me that there were many members of the armed forces, including special operations forces, that were coordinating to take out Biden, and return Trump to the whitehouse, and that "real Americans" were going to win. I'm pretty sure we already passed the deadline when he said that would happen. It's amazing so many actually believe this garbage.
     
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    I didn't say they were a think tank. I find humor in their business name, The word 'creative':
    ADJECTIVE
    1. relating to or involving the imagination or original ideas, especially in the production of an artistic work.
    That means they did not likely use standard means to achieve their goals, which was an answer they were looking for.

    .But you did tout the results, you linked to them as support for your statement that 1070 people can represent 21 million.
     

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