22 Israelis murdered 180 wounded during the last two months

Why do I bother! I actually believe that Israel is a stabilising force in the region, because it gives the surrounding Arab states a common focus for their hatreds. Otherwise they'd all be fighting one another. It seems that they need to hate someone or something. Or perhaps it's just plain basic jealousy.

 

It's plain jealousy and pure hatred
Palestinians are the source of violence in the Middle East.

 

Er, just a cotton-pickin' minute, TMR, you should've written 'it was theirs to begin with'. So na-na-nee-na-na! Or should that be 'Duh!'?

 

What? took back?

“In 1948, at the moment that Israel declared itself a state, it legally owned a little more than 6 percent of the land of Palestine...After 1940, when the mandatory authority restricted Jewish land ownership to specific zones inside Palestine, there continued to be illegal buying (and selling) within the 65 percent of the total area restricted to Arabs.

Thus when the partition plan was announced in 1947 it included land held illegally by Jews, which was incorporated as a fait accompli inside the borders of the Jewish state. And after Israel announced its statehood, an impressive series of laws legally assimilated huge tracts of Arab land (whose proprietors had become refugees, and were pronounced ‘absentee landlords’ in order to expropriate their lands and prevent their return under any circumstances).” Edward Said, “The Question of Palestine.”

Like David Ben-Gurion said

let us not ignore the truth among ourselves.’ The truth was that ‘politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country, while we are still outside

 

Not really. I'm following what Article 80 says.

 

Artcile 80 is not really one line, but it is more then that.

And all of them are been contradicted by Article 80 of the UN Charter.

Article 80 is understandable with it's simple English, and according to the Article the rights that were given to the Jews from 1922 are still valid, because Article 80 is protecting them when the UN has never terminated it.

One of those "cry babies" helped draft Resolution 242. Do you think that Resolution 242 was nonsense as well?

 

Article 80 says the rights of a Mandate end when the Mandate is concluded.

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I already showed you 57 times that the UN did conclude and terminate the Mandate.

You refuse to listen.

 

And since the UN has never terminated the document of the Mandate, then Article 80 is still protecting the rights of the document of the Mandate.

Yes, you provided a document of the UN that stated that the special committee of the UN regarding "Palestine" will stop to exist because of Resolution 181, but since Resolution 181 never been implemented nor accepted by the two sides (only by the Jews), then there is no basis for the termiantion of the document of the Mandate. Hecne, Article 80 is still protecting on the rights that were given to the Jews in 1922.

 

The UN did terminate the Mandate.

that's why they have no responsibility over Palestine and UNSCOP and all comittees dealing with Palestine were disolved.

 

Please read comment #233, I already replied to such claim there.

 

I have shown you, in documentation from the UN, that the Mandate was concluded and UNSCOP disolved.

 

You provided a document of the UN that stated that the special committee of the UN regarding "Palestine" will stop to exist because of Resolution 181, but since Resolution 181 never been implemented nor accepted by the two sides (only by the Jews), then there is no basis for the termiantion of the document of the Mandate. Hecne, Article 80 is still protecting on the rights that were given to the Jews in 1922.

 

I showed you that the UN concluded the Mandate, but you ignore this for ideological reasons.

 

I'm not ignorinf anything. Please re-read comment #237.

 

Sure you do. You ignore all documentation provided from the UN showing that the Mandate was concluded. Obviously this is due to ideological reasons.

 

I'm not ignorinf anything. Please re-read comment #237.

 

...whatever

 

If that is so, than your random country in the world has a moral group to take back land that belonged to a Palestinian in Israel that the Jews thieved.

 

yeah well it's the truth. Israel drains the WB from it's water so that Jews can grow crops and not the Palestinians. So to point out... look at how green the crops of them Jews are,... yeah well... they would look like crap if it wasn't for them thieving ways. That's just the way it is.

 

And with that there is article 1 to 80 at least. As I already noted, the indigenous people got the right to live there, and them Jew immigrants got no rights to drive them away. All in all... you've been trumped by the UN, the UNSC and the ICJ with how got rights of what. And they judged that all them settlements are illegal.

The only one that is considering something nonsense, is you claiming the UN, the UNSC and the ICJ all made this bogus judgement full with contradictions.

 

I dont want to "drive them away", I only want that the rights that were given to the Jews will be fulfilled according to Article 80 that protects those rights.

On the contrary. The UN, the UNSC and the ICJ been trumped by their own charter, which came first. Hence, all the resolutions that recognize the settlements illegal are been contradicted by Article 80 of the UN Charter.

Not really. I only said that what the UN says about the settlements are been contradicted buy their own charter.

 

what's with the "Jew immigrants" crap?

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in your opinion.

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well, in your opinion

 

It's not my opinion. but it is according to Article 80.

 

yeah, but that's just your opinion.

 

Not my opinion, but it is according to Article 80.