$4,408,452,000,000: Federal Tax Collections Set Record Through August

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  1. Collateral Damage

    Collateral Damage Well-Known Member

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    They are ALL the problem. They don't call them Congressweasels for nothing.

    Ask any of them if they'd be willing to reduce their taxpayer paid salary to the average US household income. average US household income - Search (bing.com)
     
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  2. Collateral Damage

    Collateral Damage Well-Known Member

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    So someone who does minimal work, unskilled labor, does nothing to improve themselves, and you feel they should be paid above what their labor is worth?

    The idea that welfare is 'subsidizing the company' is a crock. The employer is not responsible for the individual's lifestyle. The individual makes choices, and again the employer is not responsible for that. Employment is a contractual agreement of an exchange of labor for renumeration.
     
  3. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    How about we stop sending hundreds of millions of dollars to other countries to spend on bullshit?
     
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    Can you source us the info that people who earn a living wage suddenly live beyond their means?

    Have you ever looked at how many people actually have a job who still get food stamps? It's a staggering (give or take) 75%. And you got to be kidding me that people are fine with this and want nothing else than being dirt poor, work their butt off and still need financial aid. You can say all you want, that these wages are meant for students and kids, but these jobs is what 100,000's of people only can get to make a living. And companies earning billions exploit that, because they know the government chips in where they refuse to pay a honest day pay for a honest day work.

    Your idea to get overseas business back to the US, omits the problem that people overseas where they make t-shirts and such, get paid a fraction of the US minimum wage. The products made overseas won't be able to be sold for the same price by a longshot. While you know the people who make those products will be paid the absolute bottom, and so in need of financial aid, who can't buy the price of that t-shirt they made one bit.
     
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    Good call. Have you looked up who has been getting billions for decades on end from the US? It's Israel. The Jew state is the biggest welfare recipient of the US by miles.
     
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    It's not. The amount of people who got jobs but still get food stamps is like 75% (give or take). We're talking about 100.000's of people. And you're just dishonest if you think those people are fine with working some crap job all day, get home tired as hell because of all that manual stuff and still be dirt poor and need that financial aid.
     
  7. Vote4Future

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    There is so much pork in Washington that we don't see and understand. And so many don't even care about it. This is how politicians get funding for their campaigns. They pay off big money with bigger money from our tax dollars. I bet we could cut pork out of the budgets by 35 to 65 percent.
     
  8. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So weak, you were unable to address it directly. His point is that it should not have been "owed" in the first place. Are you able to address the egregious irresponsibility our politicians are known for?
     
  9. Hey Now

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    Desperate deflection rabbits^^ looking to be chased by straw men....AKA disingenuous post.
    Deal with this first before hunting with a lame dog:
    They are collecting WHAT WAS DUE/OWED. That fact is important on the revenue side.

    Your OP assertion is conflating revenues vs. expenditures.


    Last bump, :), unless you deal/debunk with what's in bold above?? !! Rhetorical, I know you can't.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Duh, they collect what was owed. How about discussing the topic. The tax man got a raise. Please show how Americans are better off as a result. You can't.
     
  11. hawgsalot

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    Yet we just collected a record tax receipt off the Trump tax cuts? Fact, more money in the economy, becomes more taxable if with less taxes and fewer loopholes. Tax increases only hurts the middle class when you off set it with a tax loophole that those with enough disposable income can enjoy.
     
  12. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    "Jew state"?...lol

    Ok, sure. While we're at it, we can stop sending money to Pakistan and Venezuela.

    Israel isn't the biggest.
    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/us-foreign-aid-by-country
     
  13. FreshAir

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    if you agree to raise the min wage, i would agree with that

    much welfare is the cost to society for cheap labor
     
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  14. Bearack

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    Question for you... Do you think $15 has the same value in Billings Montana to that of New York?
     
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    Deficits are driven by spending. Revenues almost always go up (inflation adjusted).
     
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    umm, it's full Democrat control since Jan 2021. This isn't about your Democrat party but about ALL reps and senators who need to go.
     
  17. FreshAir

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    I think the min is the Federal Min wage, a State can raise it if they need too

    cheap labor has a cost to society, so if the employer doesn't pay a living wage, the people have to make up for it

    when I was first starting out many many years ago, I rented for $230.00, no one is finding rent like that anymore
     
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  18. Bearack

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    A living wage is VASTLY different in Seattle, Cali & NY versus states like Nebraska, Montana. Raising the minimum to accommodate a high tax, high rent state only creates massive issues in states where the cost of living is vastly cheaper. And some jobs are not meant to be career jobs. These jobs used to be used by high school kids to earn spending money. A 40 year working as a fry cook at McDaddies has probably made some poor live decisions. Granted, there is ample people who have made great careers from being a fry cook. They work hard, become a supervisor, get promoted to manager and many of move up in the corporation to become CEO. Heck, Bezos was a fry cook at McDonald's.

    When I first started out, I rented a 2 bedroom apartment with 5 other dudes. I squirreled away every dime I could for 2 years straight. I used that to start my own business which lead to a pretty good living and the ability to purchase my own home.
     
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    Seems likely more a result of inflation than anything else.

    Record devaluation of currency 'x' + record revenue of currency 'x' = record BS
     
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    It’s not about “jobs”, its about the wages they pay to generate higher PROFITS. For me, this is more about the division of those profits. In america today, corporations are not in the business of serving people, they are in the business of generating greater profits to make more money for those at the top.

    All due respect, but this post is a great example of how those at the top have everyone debating about the $4.75 the cashier at Burger King is making, and not even discussing that the CEO made over $20,000,000 in salary alone, and his overall compensation could top $50,000,000. Thats just ONE person at Burger King, and he has everyone convinced that if he pays that cashier $2 an hour more, Burger King will fail. Hell, if he makes $2 million less, that 2 million goes along way to making the $10.00 an hour wage that cashier deserves and needs. Hell, our payroll taxes actually subsidize that because those go to provide the services these poor and low income workers use.
     
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    YES. Why should you and I subsidize that person with OUR taxes, while their company makes more and more profits ?

    Who said anything about “lifestyles” ? This is about living wages. Who TF do you think is going to be the cashier at the grocery store, or the guy who picks up your garbage cans every Tuesday, or who is going to serve you and your family when you go out to eat ?

    For most people, they dont choose to be a cashier, but circumstance sometimes dictate that. But that person deserves the dignity of being able to survive off of that days work.

    Ask yourself why our parent, and grandparents raised us, and didnt require welfare when they were working as policeman, and cashiers, and meter maids ?
     
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    yes it is, and some states may need to raise it even higher than the federal min
     
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    Hey. It's their own idea to call it the Jewish state / homeland of the Jews / the Jew state.

    your source doesn't mention those 2 countries.

    You sourced Israel is the 2nd biggest country getting free money from the US.
    That data is 2022. If you look back at the last 10, 20 or 30 years, and add up them numbers,
    you'd see that Israel is the biggest leach.
     
  24. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Israel is an Allie and the only democratic country in the Middle East. Of course we should help them.
     
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    Aha. So you flip flopped on "How about we stop sending hundreds of millions of dollars to other countries to spend on bullshit?", when it would be cutting of Jews from getting billions of free money and doing nothing in return. But you're all fine if it meant cutting of Muslims from free money.


    You don't need to explain. We get it.
     
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