Did you see this thread ? Ten Stupidest New Laws In California -> http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...489608-ten-stupidest-new-laws-california.html
I expect to be making a lot more money, and possess a lot more money. but i think the nation in general will be a lot worse off.
I expect to be in the homeless shelter in 4 years without a job, skill, or inheritance. Hey, you asked. Well, no. Actually, I'll be confined to a mental institution. I can't loose access to my meds or I'll go crazy.
the right is the one pushing for that, the left says go after the business that hire undocumented workers and wont be a issue anymore
I think a lot of the immigration is people from other states as well. I moved here from NYC because my home has become a playground for the rich. I'm not too familiar with Edmond Brown, will have to research him. I know the country economically was doing much better as we hadn't accepted total free trade yet.
SB3: Minimum Wage Hike to $15/hour by 2020. As a result of a strong socialist push by unions and complicit governments — such as the union-controlled California legislature—businesses are looking to eliminate as many jobs as possible, investing in automation instead. This is not enough, In this state (the average) it takes $28 an hour to afford a one bedroom apartment. I voted proudly for this. You should like unions, they helped build the middle class of Edmond G Brown's era and prior. They also do not want immigrants taking jobs.
That's another lie, when Reagan hired Harold Ezzel to enforce the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 the left started yelling racism when Harold Ezzel started the interior enforcement of the IRCA and Harold Ezzel was forced to resign in the name of political correctness aka not enforcing and defending the Constitution. The IRCA of 1986 was an enforcement bill. Democrats demanded an amnesty for criminals (illegal aliens) and amended the bill with an amnesty. President Reagan had to travel around the country to get Republicans on board who rejected the amnesty just like Reagan did but Reagan considered the invasion from Mexico a serious national security issue that he appeased the liberal Democrats to get the bill passed in Congress and pointed out that the Democrats said that the amnesty would be a one time amnesty never to be repeated again. As we now know it was just another liberal lie and the only part of the IRCA that was enforced was the amnesty. During the Clinton administration, Democrats in Congress would sneak through six more amnesties. -> https://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/illegal-immigration/seven-amnesties-passed-congress.html Obama's illegal and unconstitutional executive amnesties aren't included in the seven amnesties passed by Democrats in Congress.
SB-3 is a job killer. The problem is uncontrolled immigration, legal and illegal. These low paying jobs use to be entry level jobs and jobs that high school students and college students use to do. Today you have mostly immigrants and their uneducated and unskilled offspring holding these jobs where they have become career jobs and they expect to be able to put a roof over their family heads and support their families flipping burgers and cleaning toilets. These were never intended to be full time careers. But then again, it was never intended for 38 million people to be living in California and it was never intended for 320 million people to be living in the USA. America's population was suppose to have been capped at 170 million. Congress agreed but failed tlo make it law back during America's progressive era. -> http://ocp.hul.harvard.edu/immigration/dillingham.html
SB-3 is the only thing standing in the way of even MORE poverty. Who is anyone to decide what career someone wants? If someone wants to spend their life making minimum wage, let them, that's their personal decision. The point of a minimum wage is to set a floor to not spread homelessness and poverty. Take that away, and here we are in modern America. Bill O'Reilly talks about how he saved for college by painting houses. Either his wages were way higher or college was way cheaper, but SOMETHING has got to give. \ I disagree with having a quota on the amount of citizens though.
There are many people who are not educated that were born in this country. That's a fact. Any company that needs low paying jobs to make profits are not a benefit to America or the American people.They only benefit said company. Factor in MY tax dollars that go for the company tax breaks & food stamps for that company's work force and you have economic rape for all parties involved, while the company or corporation bribe the politicians for even more tax breaks. I always have had a good job, and don't really know if it was the result of brains or luck. That's how it is for a lot of middle class jobs.
I'm well aware of that, I was around back in 2008 when a community organizer was elected President. Did you factor in your tax dollars when the Obama White House was actually celebrating because so many Americans, immigrants and illegal aliens have been added on the rolls to collect food stamps under the Obama administration ? I couldn't understand why Obama and his administration would be celebrating that more Americans were on food stamps then I remembered that Obama was a student of the Cloward–Piven Strategy. You know, overload the system.
I just hope we aren't in WWIII in four years; and a nuclear war. Is the country far far better off than when Obama took office? The Dow is up almost 300%, we are adding up to a million jobs a month more, unemployment is down 5%, the housing market has recovered, with house prices having doubled or more in many areas, and inflation has.been fairly stable. Let's see Drump come close to that! Not a prayer of that happening. In the long view, at best, he will be a bit of indigestion from bad food. At worst, he will kill us all. I'd bet we'll be in a war if he doesn't get impeached first.
I'll better off... it's been part of a plan that avoids debt, spends carefully, invests very conservatively. - - - Updated - - - I'll better off... it's been part of a plan that avoids debt, spends carefully, invests very conservatively.
The government isn't in my way and I don't need the government for a paycheck, so I am good either way.
Inflation is the enemy. My private disability pension was so plush in the late nineties. Now it is sufficient and if I live below my means, I save money. Food seems most variable. All manufactured products like cookies cost way more as does good beef. But, pork, chicken and most fresh fruits seem stable. Fresh veggies, variable. Housing inflation does not effect me because I own mine and Prop 13 is wonderful. Not to be taxed out of my home because the home next door sells for a high price. How do people afford housing today I do not know. Well I guess everyone doesn't live in California I do believe Trump years will be a time of higher production of product helping employment. The economy will start to filter down to regular folks. The Billionaires will get it, that when regular folks make more, Billionaires make more too. And infrastructure upgrades. The question is how Trump is gonna pay the bill? Regardless, similar to Reagan years, I believe the Trump years are going to get America working again. Moi r > g View attachment 47106 Build the Wall, Make Ottawa Pay for It. Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic, regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
If one thing seems clear to me for 2017, Moi, it is that we will have soaring inflation! I voted for Trump primarily to protect the Supreme Court from any further ruination brought on by radical, hyperliberal Justices, but IF he puts "protectionist" policies into play unilaterally, it cannot help but send prices skyward. One small example, since you mentioned food... remember pre-NAFTA, when we paid exorbitant prices for avocados and asparagus in the winter? If Trump starts some kind of trade war with Mexico and other countries in this hemisphere, you can kiss low produce prices during winter goodbye. And, what would happen to the price of everything made in China -- which is just about EVERYTHING we see in our stores, nationwide...? But, at least one part of predictable Trump policy should, in time, lower the price of one commodity -- oil. He'll wipe away all the obstruction to building pipelines and we'll have plentiful, relatively cheap oil coming down from Canada. It won't be overnight, and during much of 2017 we'll have higher energy costs (we already do), but once the market starts to function without government restricting the industry, prices will inevitably decline. This applies to all energy sources, including coal, which still fires about 40% of all municipal power plants in our country. Housing? Inflation already has jacked the prices of houses in many parts of the country, including Colorado where I live, right through the roof! This has brought an unfortunate resurgence in the demands of different aspects of government (particularly the public school districts) to demand big property tax increases. If you are immune to that in Cali, then more power to you! What is unknown is how much "pent-up demand" there is for housing. So far, it looks like there is a LOT. But, old guys like you and me aren't running out and buying new houses, typically. And, I've read that the big toss-up is the Millennial generation. According to 'experts', many of them have little interest in buying a residence, getting married, or doing much of anything else but laying around on their asses at Mommy and Daddy's house, being "adult children". Certainly everything we've seen in this country for the last ten years has encouraged the genesis of this "arrested development", dysfunctional generation, which seems content to do... well... nothing, really -- unless it involves smartphones and social media. Interest rate increases nearly always accompany big spikes in inflation. And even though we have definitely had a lot of inflation in various sectors of the economy for the past four years, the Federal Reserve combine kept on squashing interest rates at abnormally low rates, in order to fatten the banking sector, which was already fat after non-stop interest rate suppression since August 2007. We'll probably have two more pissant rate increases, even though inflation will soar this year. Based on real demand, interest rates probably SHOULD be between 7% - 8%, but the Fed can keep the banks fat by pushing money at them through the "discount window", and then letting them sit on it and continue making money by doing absolutely nothing... just like they have since 2007.... I'm retired now and have my own sources of income, so, I'll be somewhat "better-off", I suppose. The bastards can't hurt me, mostly because I've been fortunate enough not to LET them get me in a place where they COULD hurt me, and, I haven't hurt myself, either. Good luck to you in California! You should be OK until/unless the radical Democrats find a way to tax you to death, and you can bet they dream about doing that every moment of the day and night....
My life is significantly better under Obama than it was under traitor Bush. Millions say the same thing which is why his approval ratings are vastly superior to those of the right winger. Today, right wingers are in a state of euphoric ecstasy thanks to the election of Trump. Little do they regard the fact that every time the White House and Congress are under Republican control, the USA suffers economic disaster (and subsequent war). We shall see how things turn out during the Trump regime. Most likely, it will not be as rosy as they deluded people believe they will be.
Most of us will not be if Trump manages to put through a 35% across the board price increase to benefit a small minority of jobless. That's 35% BEFORE any other increases, like the runaway inflation most of his proposed 'reforms' can cause.
One thing I haven't heard anybody mention yet -- the enormous increase in the minimum wage in many places this year. That will make low-income people happy for about a few weeks, until prices skyrocket upward to absorb the extra wages. Knowing most business owners, that won't take long at all! Here along the Colorado Springs - Denver corridor, rents have already shot upward steeply for the past two years. Two days ago the newer, much higher minimum wage went into effect.... This Libocrat "feel-good" nonsense will, indeed, feel good -- until it starts to feel bad, and then there won't be anything to make it feel better.... Ya know what's going to happen (probably everywhere else and Colorado, too)...? A significant number of people are going to lose their jobs -- AND -- rents are going to really skyrocket. Don't worry, though... the hyperlibs will find some way to blame that on Trump, too.... But many of the us on the Right have known for many years that your typical liberal Democrat can't think clearly about anything from now until the end of this day. No wonder so many of them are stunned and amazed when they see what tomorrow brings....
Minimum Wage should be regional like the cost of living, not national. I also favor tax laws adjusted to make a second house or rental property more expensive to the owner. We need to get Americans back into homes they own. It is a stabilizing influence on society. As far as asparagus & avocados go, (your previous upload) If they are not in season in America, why not. Similar to importing cherries and blueberries from Chile in the "real world's" winter. Moi r > g View attachment 47107 Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic, regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
That is exactly how my grand parents thought, until 1929. It took them until the late 50s to be secure again. They banked in buried Mason jars until they passed away. So, two things are certain, death and taxes. The rest is uncertain. You could be wiped out in one hour. Who knows if we will be better off in 4 years? Truth says no one. But some of us know why people other than the elites are not doing well, prospering in large numbers. The economic model has been changed by policies and change in policy beginning in the 70s, and going on steroids in the 80s and 90s, with this being added to until today. We now know what works for the non elites, giving them prosperity and we know what only works for the elites. It is right there in our history. Ignored of course since the 80s.
Well,I guess we need a greed law installed.. So when min wage goes up, if you increase rent or food prices, you get 10 years in jail. In 1969, I made min wage, around 1.65 an hour. Adjusted for just inflation it would be around 12 bucks today. Yet back then I could live on min wage, pay rent, drive a car and never went hungry. Which is impossible on min wage today. SO, HOW can this be possible? Something is way out of line here. And whey did me making what would be 12 bucks an hour today not implode businesses? So, something stinks like (*)(*)(*)(*) here. Someone is lying about the perils of raising min wage....not you, but others are. I see the same kind of thinking that says manufacturing jobs should not pay living wages for it is unskilled work, even when we paid living wages for 50 years and so we must send those jobs to 80 cents an hour labor in a communist nation.
