40% of Russians Struggle to Afford Food and Clothes

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  1. SvenO100

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    Not everyone in the west dislikes Russia, i've got your back.
     
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    I don't consider that in the West there are no supporters of Russia :) I, at all, never consider that somewhere there are people thinking equally :D

    Just I see that the bulk of residents of the western countries blindly believes what is told in media. And it often causes misunderstanding of logic of residents of other countries. Not only Russia, of course. But also China, Middle East and so on.

    Media approve one. But residents of these countries live, making the choice not according to the western media, and on what is seen around themselves with own eyes :)

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    I will notice that I don't consider that the Russian media more honest, than western. Both those, and others lie. At what can be that in Russia media lie more. But residents of Russia see two parties of media. And inhabitants of the West often — only one :)
     
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    Well and if it came about poverty and the income. I know that in the USA it is considered to be a salary in a year. And without deduction of taxes. In Russia the salary is always considered in a month and in the form of the amount which the person receives on hands, after a deduction of all taxes. But I don't know how many in the USA on average the person pays taxes that it was possible to compare how many what, on average, people can purchase for the salary.

    In Russia now the average salary received on hands — about 36000-38000 rubles a month.

    These are about $600 - $630 a month or $7200 - $7600 a year.

    Price level in Russia is on average, about, two-three times lower, than in the USA.

    That is it turns out that a consumer capability of an average salary — about $14400 - $22800 a year.

    As I wrote above, I don't know how many taxes the average American in a year spends. But if about 30%, then turn out that the equivalent of the Russian average salary in America will constitute about $30 - $40 thousand a year.

    It is very rough estimate because, for example, doesn't consider that the prices of the import equipment in Russia, obviously, are so high, as well as in the West. Therefore to purchase iPhone in Russia to the cleaner or the unskilled worker it is more difficult, than in the USA :)

    On the other hand the fact that in Russia free medicine and the higher education isn't considered here. Mothers can be on issue with the newborn children up to three years with preserving a salary. By the way, the state pays more than 400000 rubles for the birth of the second child or ~ $6500 ($13000 - $20000 adjusted for the prices).

    But, nevertheless, gives certain notion why in Russia don't starve to death :D
     
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    The third one..death solves all probs..no man no prob...true you liquidate all opposition..no probs...priceless. I guess it worked during Soviet times...albeit a failed ideology.
     
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    Think of it this way. Imagine someone you dislike, in politics maybe or a criminal, any particulair individual will do. You can talk with them, argue with them, it solves nothing. If they're in politics you can do the same and they will never see reason, they keep doing things that you despise. For example, people that want all bathrooms to be uni-sex to not hurt the precious little feelings of transgenders, or the crazy people that believe in multiple genders and want to be called "they" instead of he or she. Or the person that wants to welcome more and more immigrants when your country doesn't want them. Maybe it's a particulair individual that wants to change your way of life. In my country we have a politican that everyone hates, she is an immigrant and she wants to change/stop some Dutch traditions because she is offended by it, she would also wants to change street names in The Netherlands because she thinks it is offensive to people. (Think famous Dutch figures from the past.)

    People like that, people who are a cancer on the world. I don't want to deal with them, I don't want to hear them. They will stay there ignorant self no matter how much talking is done, they just need to die. Put a bullet through their skull and you're done in ten seconds. No man, no problem.
     
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    Then I guess putting a bullet through you should be no problem..;).
     
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    Indeed, the problem would be solved for you.
     
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    You try to communicate from the point of view of reason and logic with the propagandist. It is absolutely useless. I just delivered it in the ignore list — it is incapable of the reasoned dispute :)
     
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    Sometimes it is good to just wait for a little bit. Sometimes what you said actually sank in to some extent; they just need some time to mull it over. With that in mind I will continue to try and be reasonable and use logic even to the ignorant, hopefully some of the things I said will sink in and they might open up their minds. If not, they will eventually be ignored as well.
     
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    Not in these cases :) I for a long time at a forum and already saw how views of the anti-Russian part of participants of a forum under the influence of the facts and proofs changed. But at these is an idiosyncrasy to Russia. It isn't treated :)
     

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