5 dead, 16 hospitalized in mass shooting at Highland Park 4th of July parade, shooter being sought

The story is in all the daily news reports! It will be dropped soon because there are so many random mass shootings in the US. The easy availability of guns is the problem, not whether the murderer is left or right. This murderer had an arsenal of 5 legally bought guns even though he had a history of threatening behaviour and many other red flag; he was an obvious mass shooter to be but hey, your rights to play with guns are more important than the deaths of many people

 

No matter what happens, he'll get what he deserves.

 

He will grow old in prison, because that's where he belongs.

 

Antifa.

 

Haven't seen it sourced in anywhere. Could be a fake.



https://nypost.com/2022/07/06/highl...obert-crimo-posted-pics-of-his-teen-sex-doll/

 

@ButterBalls, @Hotdogr, @Turtledude, @Kal'Stang,

"In this case, we knew the make, the model, the serial number, and then we went through with the tracing process directly to the manufacturer," ATF special agent in charge Kristen de Tineo told CBS News. All of that information allowed the ATF to identify the suspect." https://www.cbsnews.com/news/highland-park-parade-shooting-robert-crimo-gun/

Any idea how the information allowed ATF to identify the suspect? If I didn't know better, it would appear that there is in fact a federal firearms registry. There are also reports that DNA was found on the rifle and that instead was what led to being able to identify him. Which would mean that his DNA is on file, but I don't think he had a criminal background. All VERY confusing.

 

Each store that deals with guns are required to keep records of ALL guns sales and purchases. I can't remember the exact amount of time that they are supposed to hold onto those records but I think its around 10-15 years. The "process" of tracing involves essentially calling up all stores that sell/buy guns (usually with in the area the crime was committed in) and asking them to go through their records in order to identify if the gun was purchased at that location, when it was purchased, and by who. It can go farther back to trace to the manufacturer location by continually doing the afore mentioned process until they hit the ultimate place the gun was made at. Of course if a gun is 20 years old they're not going to get that particular information. If however the gun was purchased with in the 10-15 year limit then it can be traced to the last person that bought the gun via a dealer.

As for the DNA being on file. There are numerous ways that they may have it on file without the person having previously committing a notable crime (enough to bar the person from owning a gun) or no crime at all. What many people don't realize is that the police keep files on EVERYONE that they collect data about. Doesn't even matter if it was just a public nuisance call, the cops are going to keep that information. Another way is lets say you start a new job that requires you to be finger printed. Many businesses will have police do this in order to prevent possible law suit complications. The cops will then have your finger prints. Same goes for DNA if required for a job. Or perhaps DNA was gathered from you because you happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. IE and for example: You worked at a company in which a murder happened. The police will often ask people to let them get DNA from you in order to eliminate your DNA from a possible suspects (even if you have an airtight alibi showing you had nothing to do with the murder) DNA. The police will keep that DNA on file indefinitely even though you had nothing to do with the murder. NOTE: These are just a few ways that police may have information on a person. DNA or otherwise.

As a note for the above....you CAN request to find out what information police may have on you. And so long as it's not related to any crime you committed you can even request that they delete that information...however it is a hell of a process that usually requires a lawyer to fully accomplish.

Edit: Out of curiosity, why'd you think to @ mention me for your question?

 

The DNA story is fake. They found a gun that was registered to Robert Crimo. Hence why he was initially reported as a person of interest, not the shooter, while the search was going on

Edit. Also DNA analysis takes longer than a few hours yet his name was released in a few of hours

 

Crimo was not the shooter?

 

That's not what I was saying. They found a gun belonging to him. They did not know if it was stolen from him or whether he was the mass shooter. Hence why they referred to him as a person of interest. All they knew was that the gun was registered to him

 

I wasn't aware that there was a federal gun registry in the US.

 

There's not supposed to be as it is illegal to do so.

 

oop! Ooop! Ooop! Don’t tell me - they are hiding under the bed with the reds yes?

 

Why else would a gun be registered to someone?

 

Bit pointless requiring serial numbers to be stamped onto guns if no one is allowed to know who that serial numbered gun belongs to

 

I think that the serial number is just so that it can be traced back to the gun shop. My guess is that the cops called the gun shop owner who then voluntarily gave them the name, because all gun shops are required by ATF to keep that info.

 

It's prohibited by Federal law.

 

I'm sure that @truth and justice knows this, but is making an argument for gun registration.

 

The shooter used a Kel-Tec SUB2000, most likely the 9mm version. That is a pistol cartridge, no where near the "high powered rifle" they keep bragging about on TV.

 

Maybe.

 

An M&P 15 wasn't it?

 

There reports of it being an M&P initially but it is a SUB2000.

 

I did not know that, but do I have a point in stating that "Bit pointless requiring serial numbers to be stamped onto guns if no one is allowed to know who that serial numbered gun belongs to"?

By tracing who purchased that gun allowed the authorities to catch the murderer within a few hours. Otherwise he would still be out there no doubt planning his next mass shooting

 

Where did you get that info from? That is highly unlikely given that the range of a Sub2000 is only about 150 yards and he was on the roof of a building

 

https://www.ammoland.com/2022/07/highland-park-shooter-kel-tec-sub-2000-rifle/#axzz7YL2bvPHo