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  1. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    Government officials are not suffering mental disability. Free medicine which helps many poor people with mental disability is drastically under-funded. Thus many people go over the radar.
     
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    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    This is exactly the position the law takes with respect to hard drugs. Even if Fentanyl can be used for legitimate medical purposes, it is prohibited as it is likely to be abused. Carfentanyl can be used by farmers, but it is prohibited as it may be consumed by humans.
     
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    In reality one cannot go over the RADAR, it can be flown under, but due to it's beam pattern from the antenna out, cannot be flown over, maybe get a clue to the proper terms of such before making yourself appear uniformed going forward.
     
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    I stand corrected.

    The problem with mental health screening is drastic under-funding of free medicine in USA.
     
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    Meaningless and irrelevant. Such substances are devoid of any constructive or beneficial uses, and can only result in the suffering and/or death of those who use them.

    Firearms, by contrast, have many constructive and beneficial uses, along with constitutional protections.

    Once again. Ultimately what is being pleaded for so desperately? A proactive, preemptive system where all individuals are denied their constitutional rights without proof of wrongdoing or evidence, on the basis of what they have not yet done, but may ultimately do one day? All predicated on the desperate, misguided hope that individuals who wish to end their own existence will not seek out alternative, equally effective methods of achieving such a goal?

    By specific in precisely what is so desperately wanted on the part of yourself. Otherwise a position will be assigned to yourself by someone else who has grown tired of trying to interpret presented nonsense.
     
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    Totally incorrect, there is plenty of funding for mental health screening in the U.S., the problem is many of the people with mental health problems, once screened fail to followup on their prescribed medications and re-visits.

    And a most of them also refuse to get off of illicit drugs and alcohol, I worked as a volunteer a1200 bed shelter in Broward County and the majority of the people with problems could not fit into the program of being clean of drugs or booze.

    These people don't want help, they are mooches looking for a meal and a bunk for a few days and then go back to the streets, where some through dealing of drugs and their flesh, obtain a firearm and then upscale their collections of cash by robbery to fuel their addictions.

    Now I realize that doesn't fit your uptopian view of the world, but that is the reality on the streets of the real world.
     
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    But only government can commit democide. How to mental cases commit democide without them being in government?
     
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    You will probably not get a logical answer to that question, the OP has repeatedly.posted comments, such as suicide is a crime, but has admitted, he is actually committing suicide by his morbid obesity.

    There is no logic in his postings, just a repetitive pre-programed narrative.

    Sort of like a bot.
     
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    Those who allow people with mental disability to access guns are partially responsible for their deaths.
     
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    The vast majority of "lazy" people are in fact disabled. Many do not understand that they have a mental condition.
     
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    You've interviewed them?
     
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    Are responsibility and democide synonyms?
     
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    No. I am not a therapist. Depression patient since 1992.
     
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    Responsibility for deaths is a synonym of democide.
     
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    So the solution is to deny gun to those not suffering mental disability? Then too, are all conditions classed as a mental disability equally at risk to self or others?
     
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    you have a vivid imagination.
     
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    Is the crew of an ambulance responsible for the death of an individual if they cannot arrive in the amount of time necessary to transport them to a hospital?
     
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    Are you calling for an end to all assisted suicide? Laws making suicide or attempted suicide illegal? Government intervention into the outcome of adults in ending their own lives?
     
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    How is lazy a mental condition? Not making the same choices that you believe are right is a mental condition? They have no free will or ability to choose other than what you think they should choose?
     
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    That's a serious, and incorrect, nit-pick. Of course things can go over the radar. Surface radar doesn't pick up most planes and virtually never high-flying planes. An often-used term is off the radar which makes no assumptions of why it's not seen but just that it is not seen.
     
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    The problem is that there is a radar. Depending on government to protect us and prevent violence, gun or otherwise, is certain to fail. Government can never protect violent attacks; they're never there when the attacks occur.
     
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    Please elaborate. Along with your ideas, please also provide examples and links where people reliably defended against an attacker armed with a gun without their own gun. I'm sure you'll find some exceptional cases but let's hear them anyway.
     
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    It's the result of gun control. In the 150+ years before gun control, the numbers were very low in comparison. Gun control creates gun-free zones and gun-free victims, easy targets for those with violent intentions.
     
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    What are you, a psychologist?
     
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    And due to cigarettes there are roughly 480,000 deaths a year. If you do the math and multiply it by 17 you get 7,446,000 deaths, so with cigarettes its almost 7.5 million deaths in 17 years, your point?
     
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