6 Ancient Treatments Doctors Still Use?

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  1. signalmankenneth

    signalmankenneth Well-Known Member

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    There is a whole area of medicine where many of the ancient treatments are still applied - homeopathy.

    And there are literally millions of practitioners of herbal medicine who do a somewhat decent job of treating many ills. And, a great many of them rely on suggestive modes to help people change their mental outlook to ease or even solve the problem.
     
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    The big difference between those in the OP and these are the ones in the OP work.
     
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    And you are claiming that the others don't?

    Please cite some examples?

    Here's one - your baby has an ear ache. Take a clove of garlic and sear it over a flame on your stovetop. Let it cool and then insert it gently into the baby's ear and cover it with a bandage. Give it a bit and the child will stop crying. When that happens, remove the clove.
     
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    Evidence this will work? It would be serious if you did this and the baby went deaf because you failed to treat an ear infection. Or damaged the ear from putting a small object (the garlic) in it.
     
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    Garlic oil has an antibiotic property but that's only going to be relevant if the ear ache has a bacterial cause and that wouldn't work within the timeframe you imply. Just because a child stops crying doesn't mean anything you've done has improved his actual health and sticking something like this in a child's ear is dangerous in itself which could easily do more harm than good.
     
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    Almost everyone in my wife's family and all of their acquaintances use it and it works with no bad effects.
     
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    I don't remember off hand how much time my wife says to do it. And, it is not forced into the ear, only until it meets slight resistance.

    However, this was meant to be just one of many, many treatments that are used in natural healing.

    Some plants you may have in your own yard have healing properties if used properly.

    I did a Google Search for "healing plants and herbs" and came up with over 1,100,000 results.
     
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    It's that kind of uncertainly and inaccuracy that can make such home remedies ineffective at best and harmful at worse.

    As I said, garlic oil does have antibiotic properties and many other plants and natural substances have similar properties. Some of them can and are used in this kind of way. Many "conventional" medicines are made (or derived) from plants after all. None of that makes it a good idea for anyone to try out some treatment they half-remember reading on some internet message board.

    It's possible there could be some kind of medicinal benefit in some cases though it's also possible just placing something warm against the ear would have some soothing effect and it's possible whatever is actually bothering the child goes away of its own accord and confirmation bias falsely attributes that to the garlic. It's also perfectly possible that attempting this does more harm than good. Sticking anything in the ear that isn't designed for it, especially with children, is inadvisable in general.
     
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    Interesting. I googled the idea and found this http://www.centralhome.com/garlic.htm. This gives the treatment. The issue I have is what are the chances that the ear infection would have fixed itself without treatment?
     
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    In my research for the novel I wrote about a veteran suffering from PTSD meeting and being treated by an American Indian with extensive healing experience, I was astonished by the amount of plants and herbs available in unusual areas that have some form of healing substance.

    Of course, a huge amount of such healing is purely psychological. The mind has amazing healing properties when set on the right course.
     
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    That's called anecdotal evidence, or as they refer to it in science, useless.
     
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    You are correct. I read a couple of years ago that there was a movement established in western nations by recently licensed Medical Doctors to seriously begin researching more of the 'old wisdom' to see what parts of it actually were transferable to modern medical practice; one of which has turned out to be suggestion as a viable medical tool.

    I think it is something like fifty percent of the time -- and regardless of surgery or drugs -- the patient responded much better if he or she BELIEVED that the curative procedures and medicines would work as advertised whereas about fifty percent of the time those patients who refused to have faith in the course of medical treatment were much slower to recover and often did not attain the same degree of recovery as believers. Nobody know why this is so, but apparently it's no longer a debatable bit of datum.
     
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    Yes, the placebo effect. Sometimes the placebos work better than the drug being tested. LOL
     
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    mental health is important for physical well being...my neurologist friend tells me he has patients with MS who have traveled overseas for venoplasty surgery claim they've improved and feel better...his tests on them post surgery show that there was no difference in their physical condition, that the procedure is useless...however he says they think they feel better which is very critcal to their mental health so thats a good thing...a placebo effect...
     

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