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  1. Longshot

    Longshot Well-Known Member

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    But they don't have, like, a purchase order or a receipt or anything?
     
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    The federal government stole it first from the Indians, the barb wire was invented and introduced to the wild west, how is a simple herd of cattle grazing stealing land?
     
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    william kurps Banned

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    What for ?

    Why ?
     
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    william kurps Banned

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    What off topic I am answering a question..

    From a poster.


    Would you say my post is false?
     
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    william kurps Banned

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    This topic went all over the place from the wild west to posters who thinks lathes can make circuit boards
     
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    That's a curious question how does a federal government own states land?

    Republican Theodore Roosevelt declared national parks up to Obama.

    Edit: Trump also did it


    Trump signs major public lands, conservation bill into law
    Mar 12, 2019 · President Donald Trump signed a wide-ranging public lands bill Tuesday that creates five new national monuments and expands several national parks. The new law also adds 1.3 million acres of new wilderness and permanently reauthorizes the Land and Water Conservation Fund, which
     
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    Listen I am not trying to call you out, but I really want the technology you have to make circuit boards out of lathes and bridge ports
     
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    No purchase order or receipt?
     
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    william kurps Banned

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    Exactly, I must research this some more how did the federal government get 95% of the land of Nevada?
     
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    How did the federal government get the land?
    The history of federal land ownership has been largely one of divestiture and public use, not acquisition. As the United States expanded across the continent, it did so by purchasing or taking the land that became new states. (Among the groups it took land from were Native Americans.)

    Over time, it transferred land to state governments and individuals, largely through homesteading and land grants, which allowed farmers to procure parcels of land for agricultural use. The government also tended to allow free use of unclaimed lands by ranchers and others, though there were skirmishes over the years when settlers tried to fence in public land or claimed land in Indian territories.
     
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    I just read the new, 24 hour toilets
    made available for the homeless in San Francisco
    cost $30 / flush.



    ,
    Homeless, FREE to register at a "facility" for evaluation,
    housing - - - that may not be "local"
    and Rehab to the world or monitored. Or institutionalized.


    Yes, the "homeless" are a mixed population.
    Let's Deal With Them Individually.

    And No One has a RIGHT to reside in
    San Francisco when they cannot afford it!
    Return To The Laws Of Vagrancy.
    :rant:

    Positive evaluation and rehabilitation beats the
    one way bus ticket of ole.
    Elon Musk and his sorts might decide to invest in
    a job training and employment opportunities.
    MOSTLY, You cannot camp in Venice Beach, Santa Monica. etc.
    because circumstances are you cannot afford to live there.


    Moi :oldman:


    No :flagcanada:
     
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    They occupied the land, including federal buildings on the land and refused to pay the grazing fees for grazing their cattle there.

    Those fees had not been paid for years - this issue has a signifiant history.

    They loaded up with weapons and stated that any fedeal officer that came near would be shot dead.

    In one conftontation, one of the Bundy cowboys drew on officers an was shot dead.

    Why are you asking ME these questions? This is all well documented.
     
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    Well, the rest of the issue is that the homeless include those with jobs that San Franscisco needs done. There are other reasons that people find it important to live outside of permanent structures.

    The idea that the homless are all vagrants is fake news.
     
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    I agree. The federal government committeed epicaly heinous acts against the native populations throughout the US. The destruction of native peoples is hard to fathom.

    If you see that as justifying reduction in federal lands (for example, returning large tracts to aboriginal peoples) you should tell your representatives.
     
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    Sorry, I don't understand your post. I already said I am retired and own my own home, what is left to work out?
     
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    For what?
    It seems like someone is upset a bunch of cattle men can beat the federal government and ghettos cant?
     
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    Once again if people want to form miltia against private owned banks or Walmart go for it, in the public eye one is punks
     
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    My citation proved you wrong. states can not secede. sorry.
     
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    You proved nothing of the sort, sorry.
     
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    you made up an argument and attributed it to me, then argued against it. that is a strawman, and why I called you on it.
    the USSR is not relevant to you being wrong about states being able to secede from the US.
     
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    I asked an honest question, did the USSR care more about freedom then the USA with your claim states dont have the freedom to leave peacefully?


    We live in a free country, people can leave, companies can leave and states can leave otherwise our Constitution is written on toilet paper.
     
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    well, I proved states can't secede. it's why texas is still a state.
     
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    no


    states can not secede from the union. this is proven legal fact of reality.
     
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    No it's not the states can leave peacefully, no where in the Constitution says they cant
     
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    Proven by whom cite the law?
     

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