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Why do you insist upon painting with such a ridiculously broad brush?

 

There were guns in my household on the day I was born in 1964, and there have been guns in my household every single day to the present. As an aside, every single gun that was in my household on the day I was born, is still in my household today, and they all work perfectly. I do not know and have never known anyone who's been shot. There have been no shootings in any immediate neighborhood I have lived in, while I lived there, to my knowledge. When I was in high school, hunting rifles in the back window of pickup trucks were common in the student parking lot. Your (and our) media is misleading you about how common it is in the vast majority of the U.S.

 

Guns don’t kill people… people kill people. We don’t take everyone’s cars away when a drunk kills somebody….

 

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we don't usually wait to suspend a license until people are dead on the highway. many of these shooters are waving red flags before they start their spree

 

If I had said that nobody ever called teachers unions and school boards groomers, your reply would have been a great retort.

Since I said no such thing however, my response is what does this have to do with what I said?

 

It is exactly when the license are suspended, after a family is killed in the blink of an eye… and I think your car should be taken away from you when someone else drinks and drives.

 

many (bit certainly not all) drivers licenses are suspended before a drunk driver actually has a wreck and kills someone.

 

Keep spinning..

 

step away from the keyboard. count to 10. and think about what we are talking about. many drunks are caught for weaving in traffic or tail lights out and can't pass a field sobriety test. their licenses are suspended. they wrecked nothing and killed no one. that is not "spin." that is life on the highway.

 

First, allow school choice so there is competition.
Parents will most likely factor in security when choosing a school.
Eliminate text books, note books, and school supplies. In the information age, there is no reason to pay for or lug text around. No back packs. (Some schools already do this)
There should be one entrance and an armed guard.
The doors should be locked while school is in session.

 

No see this is the problem. The problem is that we don’t trust y’all. And we have good reason not to trust the anti-gun lobby.

We do not trust that your intentions are simply “common sense gun laws”. We believe that your intention is the wholesale removal of the second or to undermine the second so far that it becomes essentially null and void.

Perfect example we just had a poster create a thread today or yesterday where he wrote this long diatribe with like 14 common sense gun regulations. I told him the same thing I will tell you.

I said okay I will agree to ALL of your common sense gun regulations. But in return I want a constitutional amendment which guarantees that we will have NO MORE gun regulations going into the future after we accept your initial list in order to protect against our fear that you will just keep coming back for more and more after every tragedy until we have nothing left. So I’ll agree to your full list of common sense gun regulations if you will agree to an amendment restricting any more gun regulations going into the future.

He refused. Because his intent is not common sense gun regulations. It’s an insidious attack on the second amendment because he knows he intends on coming back over and over again after every tragedy to demand more.

Are you willing to make that deal? Or are you obfuscating your true intent as well?

 

Be more specific. I don't have a problem with stricter laws that get into mental condition.

If you are talking about Universal Background Checks, be careful what you are asking for.

Are you willing for law enforcement to come into your house, no notice to make sure you have the guns you claim you have?

above is your post

you say be careful about asking for universal background checks ...why are universal background checks bad??

my reply was when obtaining a drivers license a person has a universal background check

a background check when getting a drivers license has nothing to do with the ability to operate a car

other issues can prevent even the best drivers from having a license...

unpaid fines can prevent a person from obtaining a drivers license

then you use the tired old accusation saying and I quote exactly your words

"Are you willing for law enforcement to come into your house"
and
"no notice to make sure you have the guns you claim you have?"

your post was the same old insane accusation

they are coming to get your guns !!

 

When you drive, law enforcement is aware of it. I doubt that any law enforcement officer has ever seen a single gun of mine.

No where did I say they were coming for my guns.

Now. I will explain again.

In order to have enforceable universal background checks, there will have to be universal gun registration because unless the government knows what guns I own, I can simply deny ever owning a gun which somehow ended up in the hands of someone who was not supposed to have a gun.

In order to have enforceable universal gun registration, the government must have the ability to check to see whether the guns I have on hand match the list of guns which are registered. In order for the government to do that, they would have to perform no notice inspections of everyone's house whether they own a gun or claim to own a gun or not.

When people say they favor universal background checks, I am fairly sure they do not understand the ramifications.

 

only in your world do only drunks drive around on revoke license that kill people. So you still should loose your car cause a drunk killed someone. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people. Cars don’t kill people, drunks driving kill people.

 

I challenge all to come up with a plan that will protect school kids.
You failed.

I challenge all to come up with a plan that will protect school kids.
You failed.

I challenge all to come up with a plan that will protect school kids.
You failed.

I challenge all to come up with a plan that will protect school kids.
You failed.

I challenge all to come up with a plan that will protect school kids.
You failed.

Might help just a little bit. But with stolen guns or guns in the black market your plan would not make a dent.

I challenge all to come up with a plan that will protect school kids.
You failed.

At least you came up with something. How about a law against killing people.
I hope you get my point.

 

The only answer you want to hear is that no one will be safe until everyone is armed.

So it's normal that no one is fooled by your false open-mindedness.

 

True. But we don't let you operate your vehicle until you have a license to drive it. We also require you to register your vehicle in the State you drive in before you can lawfully operate it.

I own multiple guns and I would have no problem with a law requiring me to have a license to own them.

 

Because there is nothing anyone is going to implement that will protect these kids and teachers. If there was something that could be done it would have already happened.
By all means bless us all with your amazing grand plan to save school children and teachers from these mass shootings

 

Why? I'm sure many would agree that your idea is a great start! I would treat schools like they do now in high crime/gang area's, metal detectors just like airports.. Maybe step it up with face recognition and scan based technology that can spot a firearm on anyone anywhere on school grounds other than restrooms..

 

What a great idea. If we as a society had only had such a law already. Damn, we really missed the boat on that one.

 

So, you run up and down the street discharging rounds at signs LOLOL. Talk about comparing grapefruit to walnuts, not even remotely similar..

But if you must Do you register your autos that never leave your property? How about the old collector fixer upper you've had parked in the garage or out back for twenty years?

See how ridiculous that comparison was now

 

A short, hopefully digested, lesson.

“AR” stands for ArmaLite Rifle, not assault rifle. An assault rifle is selectable (changing action back and forth from semi-automatic fire to automatic fire with the flip of a switch) like the M16. Assault weapon is a misnomer. The vast majority of AR15s come chambered for the .223 round, a versatile medium power cartridge. The popularity of the AR rifle is because:

1) It has mild recoil with the .223 cartridge;

2) The recoil is straight back (little or no “lift”);

3) The caliber can be interchanged by using different “uppers.”

4) It is light;

5) It is easy to break down, though not so easy to clean thoroughly.

All the noise about large-capacity magazines is precisely that. The magazines of an ArmaLite 15 rifle chambered in .223, as with all semi-automatic firearms, can be quickly changed, and two10-round magazines can be taped together to make changing magazines even faster.

 

Thanks for telling me what I already knew.

 

Sorry if I did, but you said rifles are more powerful today. Guess I misunderstood what you were saying.