A Closer Look at US Deaths

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.texasmonthly.com/news/el-paso-covid-19-spike-juarez-border/amp/

 

And, despite the big space on a map, Houston, and in fact almost every other Texas medical center, all problems are coming from them illegals streaming across the border to get USA freebies!

I guess these illegals just UBER over to Houston from El Paso, and the other Texas medical centers to get first class care!

And Oklahoma! Them illegals are everywhere! Just because 100s of thousands of farm workers pick and care for our food supply, there is no right for them to get any medical care!

https://www.koco.com/article/oklaho...elmed-by-number-of-covid-19-patients/34648601

 

No that's a false statement, and discriminatory.

El Paso has twice the cases as Houston (Harris County). El Paso has a population of 770,000 with Juarez, Mexico at 1.3 million. Those towns are separated only by a border highway. The Houston Metro area on the other hand is about 7 million population (about the same as NYC) and has half the cases as El Paso.

 

What other conditions due these “Covid” patients have? What percentage of the people in the hospitals and ICU’s are Covid patients? Why doesn’t your news source include that data? The reason is that your “news” source is not journalism - it is pushing a false narrative.

Only 6% of “Covid” fatalities are due to Covid only. These cases are overwhelmingly positive tests with no or very mild symptoms. Sero prevalence data indicates that the total number of persons with antibodies in the US is ~ 120 million. Healthy people under the age of 70
are at very low risk from Covid.

 

Every senior has preconditions. We use "dyeing of old age" as a moral coil but it isn't true. All elderly people succumb to some kind of injury or disease.

 

Please post your source, CDC data does not reflect your claim.

 

There is a list of preconditions put out by the CDC which put persons of all ages at risk to Covid-19.

 

CDC is the source.

 

This CDC? Post the source to support your claims please.

The total number of excess deaths (deaths above average levels) from January 26 through October 3 ranged from a low of approximately 841 in the youngest age group (<25 years) to a high of 94,646 among adults aged 75–84 years.§§ However, the average percentage change in deaths over this period compared with previous years was largest for adults aged 25–44 years (26.5%) (Figure 2). Overall, numbers of deaths among persons aged <25 years were 2.0% below average,¶¶ and among adults aged 45–64, 65–74 years, 75–84, and ≥85 years were 14.4%, 24.1%, 21.5%, and 14.7% above average, respectively.

Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19, by Age and Race and Ethnicity — United States, January 26–October 3, 2020 | MMWR (cdc.gov)

 

And? What does that have to do with what was said? If you are over 70 as you claimed, you have a preexisting conditions. I hate to be the guy that has to inform you that death is near and covid will likely expedite it even if you survive.

 

No I do not.

 

CDC. You can look it up yourself. The report was issued in late September. Infection survivability has nothing to do with the statistics you have listed.

 

Ah in September, I am so glad you're staying current. I am not going to chase down out of date information that possibly doesn't exist or taken out of context. Either you post evidence to support what you're saying or we can begin to question your honesty in the matter.

 

The percentages haven’t changed.

You are seriously incapable of finding the data? Hint - look up cdc infection fatality rate and subtract from 100%.

 

The other statistica are above from several of our reliable posters.

Put simply put, the flu strains are

 

The statistics I am quoting are from the CDC.

 

If it's around 1% than you're still talking about 3 million people who will die in the US because of it... compared to just your average 40,000 because of the flu. Do also note that no doubt most of them 3 million end up getting intensive care. Mortality rate there is 40% or something there. So we're talking 7.5 million people in the US who needs a bed on the intensive care. No doubt LOADS more would be treated in the hospitals but not on the ICU.

The hospitals are equipped to deal with the 40k of the random flu, and your other illnesses, and than there are some extra beds for emergencies who remain emplty. But that still means they aint build to preform a task to add 3M covid deaths + hospitalizations into the equation. So you know, when all the beds are being used, than your random person who has a curable form of cancer or a person who got shot will die due to a lack of beds or staff.

Obviously. And you couldn't think about that yourself when you eyeballed the numbers? Weird. That's where the so called level headed thinking comes in that some call "hysteria".

 

That assumes every man, woman and child becomes infected. Given that assumption I didn't read any further.

 

Yeah.. don't read further because the truth might scare you.

Point is that the hospitals are overwhelmed. Some ICU's in California currently are 75% full with corona patients. They obviously don't got the room now to treat everybody there that otherwise would be taken care there, and get 2nd class help. If you did the math like I did, you would get to the same level headed conclusion that the problem that covid causes is massive without being "hysteric".

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-california-idUSKCN24S2I7



And you couldn't have know it would be like that.
Months ago the US army send some aid ship to NYC to help out, because the hospitals no longer could. Add that they all build temporary hospitals elsewhere. It's worse now compared to back in the day the army send that ship. So you should have known the hospitals are overflowing with people in need of aid and so not all aid is being given that otherwise would have been given. This too causes more people to die than usual.

That a heck of a lot more people die now than usual,... is also to be found. The excess death rate stands on 300,000 (jan to oct) Largest increase of excess death are Latino's age 25-40. So obviously they are being cheated out of hospital beds... since covid officially gets the elderly.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm?s_cid=mm6942e2_w

 

0.075% of Americans have died from or with Covid in 2020, mostly "with" Covid. 31% were over 85 years old.

 

Assuming you believe in following the science, the science says that viruses do better in colder weather and we were warned by the scientists that the infection would rise with colder weather. You act like you are surprised or you think the scientists were wrong. I didn't read past the sentence above because I knew no truth would follow.

 

And (according to the CDC) only 6% of those fatalities were from Covid only.

 

Wow.

So the .075 of Americans who die from COVID is OK, in these scenarios are OK and should be ignored.

Once upon a time in America we were trying to take care of the elderly. Now, we just write them off.

Republican Family Values.

 

The weather is getting colder and the infections are rising at the moment.

And I will say... you did read it all, you just said you did not. lol
It's just your way to ignore science and arguments when you dislike it.
Good job.