A different perspective on Covid-19

PF did a thing, I guess. It’s fixed now.
Feel better?

 

the "Trump response" was the real issue

 

Oh I have been saying what this is for a time now, I think most educated people are not falling for this hyped up thing.

I don't think it's any sort of conspiracy but I do think it was time for people to have another catastrophe and there weren't any so they pushed this as one. These last couple of generations have been extremely boring overall.

 

You're welcome, if you call me "ignorant" you overestimate me ...

It's months I deal with the matter of Covid-19. The arguments I hear around are always the same.
Covid-19 is only a bit stronger than a flu, it's not danger for the 95% of the population, it's wrong to suspend the entire country ... and so on.

That's almost correct. The real problem with a systemic disease is that you need enough hospitals to treat the patients.
If in US you can hospitalize 5,000,000 of citizens ... leave SARS-Cov-2 go, leave it have a party in US. No problem.

Otherwise you should consider that today, with less that 200,000 citizens hospitalized, the US sanitary system suffers a lot.
Personally I think that the incoming administration should spend some thoughts doing something waiting for the vaccination of the majority of the population.

 

Have I said that? No, I haven't.
But to have credentials doesn't mean not to be a quack ...
I'm on a history forum where it happens I deal with PHD scholars who simply spend old credentials to give importance to what they say.
Usually [as moderator] I ask if there are peer reviewed works ...

 

Fauci has got an Italian surname ... [I'm joking!].

I didn't like Fauci at the beginning. In Summer 2015 I was among the few guys who predicted the victory of Trump ... [also on this forum, btw]. And when I saw that guy I thought "is he going to work with Trump? Mmhh ...".
Anyway that little doctor has demonstrated to be a scientist. When you talk even beyond what your boss says ... it means that you are not a blind workers, but a free thinker.

 

Don Lemon told him. That's probably his credentials.

 

As I have said before Spooky....I wasn't educated in your school. Indoctrination is not anything I was ever interested in.

 

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Feel'n fine.

 

From Day 1 the absurdity of this was obvious, shutting down minimal traffic small businesses for the purpose of forcing people to mass gather in WalMart stores. Just from that alone you know this has always been a fraud.

It all is a bad joke. Having people stand in line at airports 6 feet apart while going thru security, and then stuffing them as densely as possible into aircraft. Declaring masks do not restrict breathing, while allowing professional athletes deeply panting in each other faces without masks, while requiring masks on the sidelines. On and on the greatest fraud, theft and coup in world history continues.

 

Masks restrict breathing. I'm a trekker and in this period I train wearing a mask to simulate to be at high altitude ...
It's not really about what you breath, but it's about the extra effort you do because there is a filter in front of your face [btw, masks don't retain CO2, this is an other urban legend ... ]: this is why they say that running you can avoid to wear a mask: try and run wearing a mask ... it's not so easy. And overall running the time of "strict contact" is reduced, while walking it's potentially well longer [so it's better to wear the mask].

 

Believe me, when a crisis strikes we will all know it as we are stepping over dead bodies in the streets.

This isn't that, it's, like your guy said, a bad flu season.

It would be laughable but they are giving me free money for it. After you and I and our kids are gone there will be students learning about the fear and paranoia of the 2020's and the teachers will be telling the kids to be thankful they don't live in our back assward times.

 

What you posted is pure totalitarianism - arguing the government literally can and should restrict who may run, who may walk and who may do neither. There is NOTHING essential about the professional sports teams owned by mega millionaires.

 

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That's the difference between continental Europe and the Anglo-Saxon world. I do know this quite well [it's not a few years I wander on Anglo-Saxon forums]. You think that knowing the risk, it's your free choice to risk or not.

In continental Europe there is a different approach: the authorities have got the right even to force you not to risk.

Generally I would agree with you [personally I know how to protect myself and I protect myself without the necessity to wait for the government], it remains the problem of the persons who are not able to protect themselves and of the persons who don't understand properly the level of risk [if you don't understand the level of risk, probably you will risk]. You make also other persons risk.

But I don't think that the two approaches will find a way to meet somewhere.
Americans came from Mars, Europeans came from Venus [Brits came from Jupiter!].

 

Australia and New Zealand treated Covid in a 'hysterical' manner, and got it under control.
In doing so we have saved many lives.
If Australia was the USA, for our population, then we would have about 15,000 cases per
day - as it is we got half a dozen cases a day, max.
Presenting your credentials like this guy was setting off alarm bells. He's saying he's an
expert on virology, which he clearly isn't.

 

"Willful Ignorance" is even too much, you're adulating me.

If you want to read my "further consideration" about vaccines, all vaccines are experimental in the early phase of their development.
In this case they have run a lot, even using a new technology and a new solution: the messenger RNA. In the already approved vaccines the virus is not present, there are molecules which inform our cells how to face SARS-Cov-2. Substantially they indicate which antibodies to produce.

I'm reading Dr. Cowan's article: he's listing known risks. Ok. We will see.
Similar risks are involved with the usage of any new medical tech or medicine, imagine in case of the usage of the new kind of vaccine.
But if we want to stop the pandemic within this year [2021], we need to vaccinate at least the 70% of the population to reach the herd immunity.

As for I know, no country is making the vaccine obligatory. Also in Italy it's voluntary. A coworker of mine has told me "I will wait, if I will see the vaccinated persons having troubles I won't get the jab!".

If you don't trust these vaccines do like my coworker: wait and see.

Btw, there are alternatives around: the Russian vaccine contains a recombining particle of human adenovirus, just to say. It's the Gam-COVID-Vac or Sputnik V.

On the other hand, if you want something more traditional, with the inactivated Coronavirus in the jab ... you should wait for VLA2021 or "Inactivates SARS-Cov-2 Vaccine" [great fantasy about the name!] or BBV152 ...

 

Amen brother, and there is no better example than Anthony Fauci!