A Kansas chemistry professor got his kids ready for school — then ICE arrested him on his front lawn

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  1. BillRM

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    Hmm maybe we should rename ICE to the SS.
     
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    This is the problem with our young today. They are misinformed. It isn't they are brown skinned and of Spanish/Native American descent. It isn't that the ruling class wants all brown skinned Spanish/Native Americans rounded up and slaughtered.

    On the contrary, we want you to respect our laws. That's all there is to it.

    So you know why you will never respect our laws?

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...y-hikes-are-dangled-to-lure-immigrant-workers

    Businesses are breaking the law. Nothing is done.

    Immigrants without visas or proper registration and identification are breaking the law.

    No one discourages breaking the law. They blame citizens for being fascists, neo-nazis, or racists. They try to label white men and remove their influence from society.

    Let me ask you something. What is the percentage of those who illegally immigrated to the U.S. who have been arrested, rounded up and sent back to their home countries, never to return? What is the percentage of illegal immigrants who have been incarcerated and kept there for not committing any crimes, except having brown skin and being of Spanish/Native American descent?

    Please, support your claims.
     
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    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is some information on the SS of Hitler's day. Please read it. Maybe it will help you to see that you are doing wrong when you indiscriminately call people SS because they want you to follow the laws of their country.

    http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/holoprelude/aboutthess.html

    Are the men and women of ICE required to be of one race, proven through ancestry for approximately 175 years into the past?

    Does ICE actively seek university professors and well educated men? Are they impeccably dressed in uniforms more elegant than the rest of law enforcement?

    Do ICE officers believe in Nordic mysticism? Do they believe themselves to be elite within law enforcement?

    Is it ICE who wants to take over the government and ignore it's laws while attempting to get their leaders elected?

    Does ICE have three million members who demand social change and bring violence on those who disagree?


    I could go on and on. There is more in common between the progressive movement led by academia and including Mexican/Native American illegal immigrants, and the Schutzstaffel, than there is to ICE. It's so ridiculous to believe anything else, that it borders on the insane.
     
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    Sorry but the fastest way of causing the lost of respect for laws is to apply them without commonsense and in this case even worst applying them to made bigots happy.
     
  5. Oh Yeah

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    Why are the cities taken Federal money if they wish not to co-operate?
    If ICE is given information on known illegal criminals they will pursue them but if they are legal citizens they have no authority.
    There may very well be plenty of decent people who have entered our country but a couple things need to be looked at. If they snuck into the country without permission they have committed a crime. If they came in on some sort of visa and overstayed then why haven't they tried to rectify the situation. My first wife overstayed her visa by mistake and when notified by immigration she went immediately down to the office and explained her situation and they worked with her and extended her visa. If your here on a visa and knowingly avoid going back home then you are committing a crime. You are trying to game the system and depriving another person who is legally trying to enter the country. If you are using our schools, medical facilities, working under the table and avoiding taxes, getting welfare or any government assistance then you are stealing and committing a crime.
    If they are here illegally, we are judging them by their actions, which is, they have committed a crime by the simple act of having no regard for our "rule of law". We cannot safely protect our country if we have total disregard for it's "rule of law". You may know some decent people who are here but how do the rest of know? On your hearsay?
    I am sure you have a home and you may very well be a good soul of self righteousness. You may be one of those who harbors fugitives from the law but the time comes when you say "I cannot take anymore into my house". "I can no longer afford to financially help". " My utility bills are going out of site because these people are taxing the use of the electricity and sanitation". " Some money is missing but I don't know which one is stealing, because they all seem so decent". " Why are some of the younger ones acting funny as if they are on drugs and acting so hateful to others in the house ?" " Things are out of hand but we cannot get any help getting rid of those who are harmful for fear others also will be arrested." " I am the most generous house in the neighborhood and help other households in the neighborhood but no one seems to want and reach out to help me." Do you get the point? By the way Black Rifle Coffee is the fastest growing coffee chain in America. I think people are getting over Starbucks self righteousness.
     
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    Read Mac-7's post 189. Enough said.
     
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    As usual, you intentionally divert from the topic. The topic in regard to your reply revolves around the equation and likeness of boundaries and borders with morality, plus the violation of borders and boundaries and what said actions says about the performers of those acts..
     
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    [​IMG] Talk to the badge because the face does not want to hear it!
     
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    It's probably a case of authorities deporting those who come to their attention. If this guy was grassed to the authorities or picked up on a routine paperwork check/audit, then the law states he would be deported. It's not a case of, "Hang on lads, he's a teacher, father etc.. lets let him off and we'll try to find one that's a rapist/criminal etc. instead"
     
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    They choose not to spend their money to hold someone for an undetermined time so that ICE can come pick up someone at their convenience. Why on earth should the city be liable for those expenses? If ICE is too busy rounding up teachers and Rotarians then ****'em.
    When someone gets arrested they are put in the system and it's up to the Feds to come get the ones that they want. ICE is informed of anyone in their database. If ICE is too busy rounding up teachers and Rotarians then ****'em.
    The OP has been trying to get citizenship but that often takes many years, if you read the articles you'd know that.
    Your wife got lucky that the people on the right here weren't in charge because she would have been deported and not allowed back in the US for 20 years. She met someone who took into consideration the circumstances and made the decision to help rather than follow the letter of the law as espoused by so many here. Knowingly or unknowingly is irrelevant to the law. As to gaming the system, no one is denied a visa or citizenship because an illegal is here in their place, they are judged on their own merits for acceptance or denial. Pepe shouldn't be allowed to go to school? Why not? Schools are taxpayer paid because they make communities safer and stronger. By your rational childless people shouldn't have to pay school taxes. Going to school benefits Pepe and the community at large. Yes, hospitals have to provide acute care, that really is the correct thing. Two reasons, it shows our humanity and the second, if they wait for proof of citizenship they could die waiting. If you arrived at the hospital unconscious would you want them to wait to treat you? For that matter, do you carry a copy of your birth certificate with you? The long form? If you're from Hawaii, they might not accept the normal certificate of live birth you know.

    You mean like your wife?
    Study after study after study after study shows the illegals produce considerably more than they consume. I do not espouse a program of letting all illegals stay, my fight is that a little compassion and common sense goes a long way and is lacking in what is going on now. They are not the enemy, they are human beings. Treat them as humans first then look into their illegality. In the OP we have a case of cutting off the nose to spite the face. What happens if he can't find good paying work on his return to Bangladesh? His wife goes on disability, his kids get welfare assistance and who knows what losing his expertise costs us. To gain what? Rule of law? Like your wife?
     
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    Actually I was one of the unlucky ones because they let my ex-wife stay. lol. I understand your stand but I'm sure every illegal has a sad story. They all knew that this day was coming and should have made preparations to leave. Nothing is stopping Pepe's wife and kids going with him. It will help there geography lessons. They will be able to get in touch with their heritage and they wont have to pay money to groups like Ancestry .Com.

    I guess they do because their making all that money under the table while Americans children are going hungry because their daddy cannot get a job.

    Americans are unable to get health care because most of the money being allocated has been used by illegals." We would have liked to help you earlier but we don't have a bed because we are full up helping illegals". When it comes to Americans over Illegals I say "F**k' em."
     
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    I would further tell them that the government is very capable of making really lousy and immoral law, and that most of our elected leaders and their legislation do not have a functional moral compass.

    Thanks for the straight answer.
     

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