A list of what will save, may save and will not save Trump...

Who are those people? I think you're confused. This thread is about Trump.

No! If you care about this country, the President needs to make it clear beyond the slightest shadow of a doubt that he/she is not a criminal. A President owes that to the country. A President who has engaged in suspicious behavior (and if you're going to tell me that all the things Trump has done are not, at a minimum, suspicious... you're not serious) must be particularly transparent. Not engage in irrationally and illegally stonewalling an investigation of his suspicious acts. Not refuse to produce documents. Not harass witnesses via tweeter...

You, as most Trump supporters, are confused because the burden of proof is on the prosecutor in a criminal case. Not necessarily so in Impeachment. Stonewalling an investigation should be more than enough to remove a President. And if it doesn't, it will be only of pure partisan politics by Republican Senators.

Nixon resigned because he knew the Senate was going to remove him. And they were removing him, not because of the Watergate affair, but because of the cover-up. Nixon's cover-up was veiled in secrecy. Trump's cover-up is out in the open. They are both abuse of power. Why would abuse of power out in the open be less serious than the secret type?

So you are dead wrong! In this case the evidence is so obvious that it's mind-blowing. But if President Elizabeth Warren, or President Buttigieg or Presiden Biden, or President... Chelsea Clinton... engages in suspicious behavior, I would expect Congress to investigate fully. Knowing that, like it happened during the Clinton impeachment, making up bogus charges will backfire.

 

"the evidence is so obvious". Where have we heard the before? Sorry about the blown mind.

 

Sponge games with you? After 40 years of left wing media having the entire circus, you upset trump rattled your cage , why?

 

Gee, I dunno.... Maybe some of us are more sensitive than others about having a serial criminal in the WH?

 

Oh please I wrote a few songs about Hillary.

 

You’re living in the wrong country if you think it’s presumed guilty/prove your innocence. That’s called Salem Witch trials bud. And if you can’t see the disastrous results that sort of attitude presents, I don’t know what to say.

 

These are Trump's supporters. With fans like these, Trump doesn't need enemies.

 

He didn't cause it, he's just like an astringent for mental illness.

 

Just wait until Warren is president, then sides will be reversed.

 

Neither myself nor Warren will live that long.

And no, if it collapses tomorrow I'm ready.

A socialist getting elected will only get rid of other leftists.

 

That's called an election, not something the dems want to chance.

 

You make my point.

 

I'm not making your point, you're making mine.

In what world do you think the rich leftists will let Warren be elected to take their money?

 

If you believe that government officials judging the People is the same as the People judging government officials, you just don't get what impeachment is about. Looks like you're willing to give government more "rights" than our framers did. What you advocate is a road to totalitarian communism.

In any case, what is all this red herring about? There is more than enough evidence to prove that Trump is guilty. It's as if you wanted to give some future Democrat in the Presidency more power than they should have.

 

Guess Republicans missed their shot at impeaching Obama after he allowed our border agents to get shot by our our weapons in that little sting he croaked up in order to get them drug dealers. Darn it. Snap! And due to his support of BLM who murdered cops, that should have gotten him impeached too!!! And we could have impeached him for spending trillions on the ACA which has helped only a minor portion of citizens but sent costs skyrocketing for everyone else. And of course we could have impeached him for Benghazi since some people thought he purposely let those people die and withheld military support and then blamed it all on a video. Plenty of people THOUGHT and FELT that he did it and that’s all we need....feelings. Right?

 

Yep! "Darn it and snap" Because if they had evidence that it was abuse of power, then it's not even a "shot". It's their duty to impeach! Happily, Democrats are meeting their obligation this time. Which is a message for future Presidents so they know that not everybody is asleep at the wheel.

BTW, who's Obama?

 

Once they break out the evidence Trump specifically forced a country to investigate a political rival and ONLY for his personal gain then please, impeach away.

But that country didn’t know they were being shaken down and all the people involved had no idea anyone was demanding quid pro quo. Whoops. But a bunch of people who weren’t there, didn’t see anything, didn’t hear anything and don’t actually know anything presumed a bunch of things happened. And coincidently they’re ALL Leftists with an agenda to impeach Trump since 2016. So no ulterior motives to make anything up since feelings about events nobody can prove just happen all because certain people with grudges presumed they happened

whoopsie

HEY, you witch!!! I’m going to tie you up to this post and set you on fire. Now if you put the flames out that'll prove you’re a witch and we’ll find another way to kill you. But if you burn and die, don’t worry because that’ll prove you were just human all along and we’ll be very sorry. Ready to get with the burning? Let’s get to it! You prove us wrong and put out those flames. Just know that if you do we’ll figure out another way to get ya!!! You hear me witch!!!

 

Done and... done...

Thank you for your endorsement.

Oh... and don't forget to read the OP. The "Lindsey Graham Defense" was written just for you.

 

Everything Trump touches turns to shyt.

Palestinians in the West Bank on Tuesday embarked on “a Day of Rage” in protest over Trump's decision to recognize Israeli settlements in the area. He did not have to do that. There was no reason to stir up a hornet's nest, but Trump did it because he knew it would stir up a hornet's nest.

And, because he likes to act like a complete jerk. No foreign power, not even our allies, trust this President.

The demonstrations backed by the Palestinian Authority turned violent in several locations throughout the West Bank. Five primary points of contention have been reported, with hundreds of Palestinian rioters present in each location: the village of Abu Dis; Rachel's Tomb near Bethlehem; Judea and Samaria junction near the city of Ramallah; in the city of Hebron and the city of Tulkarem.

Why? Because Secretary of State Mike Pompeo last week repudiated a 1978 State Department legal opinion that held that civilian settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories are “inconsistent with international law.”

The Pentagon has reversed Trump's retreat order in Syria.

The Times reports, "United States troops have resumed large-scale counterterrorism missions against the Islamic State in northern Syria, military officials say, nearly two months after President Trump’s abrupt order to withdraw American troops opened the way for a bloody Turkish cross-border offensive.

"The new operations show that, despite Mr. Trump’s earlier demand for a complete withdrawal of all American forces from Syria, there are still troops in the country, many of them in combat, for the foreseeable future."

“Over the next days and weeks, the pace will pick back up against remnants of ISIS,” Gen. Kenneth F. McKenzie Jr., the commander of the military’s Central Command, told reporters"

It isn't the first time the Pentagon has reversed the orders of our draft-dodging, militarily ignorant President.

 

Okay.

This is from the transcript provided by the White House. This is what Trump told the Ukrainian president.

"I would like you to do us a favor though. The other thing, there's a lot of.talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me."

No hearsay, no second or third hand testimony, the quote above is straight from the horse's mouth.

So, is this.

At a recent briefing, White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney blithely described quid pro quo. “What you’re describing is a quid pro quo,” asserted a reporter. “We do that all the time,” replied Mulvaney. “Did he also mention to me the corruption related to the DNC server? Absolutely. No question about it. But that’s it. That’s why we held up the money … I have news for everybody: Get over it. There’s going to be political influence in [Trump's] foreign policy.”

 

An interesting analysis here by Chris Cillizza.

A new CNN poll shows that half the country believes that President Donald Trump should be not only impeached by the House, but also removed from office by the Senate.

That result is being spun in some corners of the internet as great news for Trump, because that 50% number is unchanged from a CNN poll in mid-October, the conclusion being that the last 10 days of public impeachment hearings have not convinced more of the public that the President needs to go.

Except that we are missing the forest for the trees here: A majority of the country believes the current President of the United States should be impeached and removed from office!

A quick check of history shows how strange that is.

The peak of support for the impeachment and removal of then-President Bill Clinton in 1998 was 29% in CNN polling. That's the highest that number ever went, despite the fact that the House Republican majority did vote to impeach late that year!

Ditto impeachment sentiment for the two presidents between Clinton and Trump. In a 2006 CNN poll, 30% of the public wanted George W. Bush impeached and removed from office; in 2014, 33% said the same of Barack Obama. (Unlike Trump and Clinton, neither Bush nor Obama ever faced any sort of formal impeachment investigation or vote.)

What those historical numbers tell us is that for at least the last two decades, there is roughly 30% of the country that is ready to impeach a president (usually of the party to which they do not belong) at all times.

What makes the Trump number so remarkable, then, is that 20% more of the public is now convinced not only that he should be impeached but that he should be removed from office -- despite the fact that, unlike Clinton, Bush and Obama when those CNN polls were taken, Trump will face voters in a bid for a second term in less than a year's time.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/26/politics/trump-cnn-impeachment-poll/index.html

 

CNN?

 

The problem with all that is that it doesn't mean anything. The polls show that the vast majority of those favoring impeachment are democrats and those favoring not impeaching are republicans. The trial in the senate will take place with republicans in charge from primarily republican states.

I know you will say that the republicans are failing in their patriotic duty. However, the problem with that argument is that the democrats have taken the attitude that this is an impeachment and not a trial and thrown all pretense of fairness out the window. Consequently, those republicans don't believe much that the democrats are putting out.

 

There isn’t a defense. There will be excuses made to not remove Trump. I’m fairly certain most Senate Republican’s can conjure up a few rationalizations if it’s in their self interest to do so.

Now given that information continues to dribble out (Giuliani, Parnas, Nunes, Solomon, etc.) this whole thing might become so exceedingly confusing to many they just switch off. Although the whole damn thing is beginning to look like a criminal enterprise. Moron Gate.