A man was fired from his job after a photo of him at the deadly Charlottesville rally

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  1. Oh Yeah

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    I'm not sure that case is quite over yet either. I expect to hear any day now that a suit is coming.
     
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    Because he expressed it on Googles time, on Googles property, using Google's equipment. Its not just his personal business, if he involves his employer.
     
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    are you assuming I'm not Jewish, or of Jewish roots?
    are you assuming I'm not a minority?
    are you assuming I'm not subjected to racism?
    are you assuming I'm not exposed to people who want my kind dead?

    I question the feelings of anyone prepared to act hysterically in response to the 'crime' of holding views we don't care for. The very best thing I can do to/for the genuine bigot, is kill them with kindness. May only work sometimes (to erode their whacky views), but it sure makes life easier for me.
     
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    Yes I am assuming that you are not Jewish and it is totally your choice which people that would like to see you dead or would like to kill you, you associate with.
     
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    Yes, that was in-house, so it's different. And even that guy is looking at possible legal retaliation. This hot dog dude is on a completely different level because he didn't do anything other than show up at a legally sanctioned event (assumedly on his day off) in many states removed.
     
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    They seem like ethno-nationalists trying to establish and maintain a nation for Jews. I was wondering why you would have an issue with ethno-nationalists who want a nation reserved for Europeans.
     
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    And you seem like a kook if that is what you gleaned from my post.
     
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    What do you think his "agenda" is then?
     
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    It's not voluntary association, it's association in the normal course of work/education/commerce etc. A person's personal politics, even when in opposition to my own, is of zero consequence if I'm buying a car, dealing with employees, banking, grocery shopping, in a lecture, etc etc.

    PS: you assumed wrong
     
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    He/she has a point. Israel is moving towards zero tolerance of non-Jews. I know because I have a non-Jewish friend living there .. hanging by a whisker. I also have a family member who visits at least yearly, and he reports an increasing nationalism/racism etc.
     
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    I want us as a society to be shocked, astonished, horrified when workers get canned for expressing their political views on their own time regardless of what those views are. That empowers workers to be politically active, and empowers the rest of us citizens, who will get the benefit of access to UNPOPULAR ideas, especially the ideas that are unpopular with the business community and corporate America.
     
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    I do not associate or place myself in close proximity with an entity that would wish me harm or would condone doing me harm based upon my heritage...I'm funny that way.

    P.S. I do not believe that you are truthful but that aside, I really do not care and no skin off my back as to who you choose to associate with that wishes you ill. To each his own. I'm not desperate for company so that I would surround myself with anyone other than people that wish me well and enhance my life.
     
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    Post of the week.
     
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    I live in The USA and the politics here are the ones that most affect me. Just because I am Jewish does not make me more involved in Israel's politics...I'm not. In fact, I think that the Israelis should buy a Hawaiian Island or another tropical paradise in the Pacific and relocate.
     
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    Uh...whatever you say, Stretch Gordon.
     
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    Please do not diminish the horrific and atrocious Nazi agenda and history. You make it sound so innocuous...like someone wearing a cologne that make you sneeze.
     
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    Well I think that's inordinately silly and precious. The world is a rich tapestry, and we must engage with it. As long as you're not being actually hurt by bigots/racists whatever, why waste an ounce of your life-force on avoidance.

    You're the first person I've come across who's suggested I'm lying about that particular part of my ethnic makeup. I've had questions about other infusions (indigenous, primarily), but not that one. Interesting.
     
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    Stick with it, brudda. You can do it! :lol:
     
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    Do you condemn their increasing nationalism/racism?
     
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    I do see a point in consequences for unpopular political expression, but I don't want a paycheck to be the consequence any more than I want a jail cell or a fine to be the consequence. I am in favor of social consequences in the neighborhood, at church, at the weekly poker game, at the golf club, just about everywhere else. I am ok with this as a response....https://finance.yahoo.com/news/father-white-nationalist-charlottesville-marcher-174750517.html.
     
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    It should be LESS of a concern to you than sneezy cologne. It's merely thoughts, privately held. It has no impact on you.

    Condemn actions, by all means, but sympathies are not actions.
     
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    Most States employers have the right to fire an employee at will for no reason at all. I appreciate that if they gave a reason for the firing to justify it then its better justification than not giving a reason. But if a person was just fired without any explanation its only speculation to connect it to attendance at a rally. However, employees cannot conduct themselves in offensive behavior that might be construed as supported ideology by their employer without risking damage to their employer's business. Even if an employee did something offensive on their own personal time, if they did it publicly and it gained national controversial attention. Either way, its the employer's call and there is no legal action that can be taken against such an employer. If people don't agree with it, they can condemn the employers actions by boycotting the company, but that's about it.
     
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    not in CA
     
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    Employers can fire people for any reason or no reason at all.
     

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