A Prelude to Slaughter? Chow Dead in Hong Kong

Oooh. Too close to the truth? Such anger at argument defending the right to liberty. You hate individualism, liberty, and capitalism that much? Sad.

Whatever the sins and errors of the Hong Kong Revolutionaries, imagined or real, staged or actual, it does not alter this reality: China is a tyranny and is destructive to the life of the rational and creative mind; Hong Kong is a bastion of wealth and liberty, contributes to the flourishing of life by protecting the rights of the individual--the creative, the productive, the self-made soul, the wealth producers--and wishes to remain so.

I'll tell you what, you sleep with the CPC. Me? I don't like rats; they have fleas.

 

Nah. Just reality. Just the truth. Just a rational judgment. Just is as it is.

 

I don't fight for democracy, the tyranny of the mob. I fight for individual rights, capitalism, and romanticism, because more than all the rest, I fight for Reason, and the right to live by it.

 

It may be Chinese, but liberty is not bound by geography, it thrives where there is a human mind pursuing its own happiness, whatever its GPS location.

 

If you can't defeat your betters ideologically, smear them with sht, destroy their moral confidence, attack their character, not the substance or righteousness of their cause.

 

To carry water for the CPC is to tell the world, you are Xi Jinping's ass kisser.

 

It's a battle of ideas, the collective good against the rights of the individual, feelings vs thought, Plato vs Aristotle, Kant vs Rand, the world vs me. Human existence, for better or worse, is determined by the ideas that are held to be true. If humans believe human sacrifice is moral, there will never be enough sacrifices to satisfy them. If humans believe reason is the moral, there is no limit to what they can accomplish--the universe will be theirs to recreate in their own image.

This is the battle between China and Hong Kong; its outcome will determine Asia's future for a millennium as either tyrannical madness, or creative prosperity.

 

Depends who is occupying the room, and why. I don’t imagine many German underground groups gave the Nazi’s a heads up before they cracked them open.

Your mistake is in seeing the Hong Kong idealists’ actions as protests against policy. It’s not. It’s a revolution by liberal idealists against collectivist tyranny. It’s a battle of the Individual vs the State. Of Prometheus vs Zeus. It’s a battle of life and death, a life worth living or a living death.

 

University student protesters have shot a media liaison officer outside of one of the campuses. They have become more and more violent, luckily for them they are in Hong Kong and not among the other protesters in Iraq, Chile, Bolivia, Iran ect. ect. where escalations like this will get you shot. Even here in the US if someone is violent with law enforcement they would be arrested or likely shot if they threaten with deadly weapons. In Syria, Kurds have recently been shot for throwing rocks at Turkish armed vehicles patrolling with Russia in what used to be Kurdish controlled northern Syria. The protesters in Hong Kong are getting closer to rioters if they are not already as the Hong Kong authorities have declared them.

 

China bow its collective head, and the sword of liberty will prevail.

 

One of their problems is they are not an underground group. They have no organization, several different "leaders", differing demands, and no ability to negotiate as they are mostly just individual youth. With recent counter rallies, and the middle aged starting to clean up and shut down their roadblocks things are not looking like a majority ideology except among younger college aged citizens.

 

It’s disappointing, but I suspect true...still, at the same time, this did happen and gives one pause for hope:


Hong Kong multi-millionaire standing up to China
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...mmy-lai-hong-kong-protests-intl-hk/index.html


Cathay CEO resigns amid Hong Kong protest
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1V606U

The protest may be a revolt and run deeper than we see.

I side with the Hong Kong idealists. To hell with Xi Jinping and the CPC.

 

Also consider the neither side had much artillery, mostly just muskets in that war. The world is a different place now with armored vehicles, tanks, heavy assault weapons, and war planes. Success in modern revolutions usually need some form of military coup or desertion.

 

Neither of these men officially represent the Hong Kong protesters, they have no collective formal structure. If there is some "invisible hand" that is behind a deep revolt, recent actions by protesters and middle aged counter protesters reflect they are not doing so well beyond college students and the young.

 

And yet, Vietnam defeated America, even though America had the military might to squish it like a bug. Why? Ideas. They move the world, not muscle.

 

What Hong Kong needs is a Thomas Payne.

America would be wise to support the fighters for liberty, demand Xi Jinping live up to the Hong Kong treaty, offer every Hong Kong citizen American citizenship, condemn the CPC as murderous tyrants with no right to breathe air, and demand they kiss our free America butts.

 

Vietnam is a terrible example, its a loaded subject. Much more went into the North Vietnamese victory than just "Idea's".

 

And therein lies your error.

 

America lacked the political will, do you think China does?

 

I postulate that the question is...does Hong Kong? (It was the morality of altruism that sapped the American political will. The same assinine morality that got us in the useless war in the first place. Again, ideas move the world, not bullets.)

But be that as it may, if the Hong Kong idealists truly understand to its deepest root what they are fighting for, the right to live freely in pursuit of one's own happiness, they will triumph; if not, they will fail. Whatever the case, the least the moral can do is support their efforts through the written and spoken word--because when it comes right down to it, liberty is dear to each honest living being, and without it, its death on barbed wire, or burial ditches, or killing fields, or gulags, or bamboo cages, and on, and on, and on.

 

False hope can get thousands of people killed there. They should never get the impression the US will help them militarily or in any other way that brings us into conflict with China. Hong Kong's autonomy died with that lease agreement with Great Britain.

 

gotta say the PRC are upante their PR game. most HK resident are tired of disruption to their daily live now.
if they want protest do so, dont affect other ppl daily live, otherwise they will just lose support from other HK resident. shame on protester try to disperse cleaning crews that block residential road for days. there are some westerner in the cleaning crew as well.

with each violent act, the support for protest grow weak each days. video show clearly ppl are tired of disruption and spoil brat blocking road etc.

 

i dont hate liberty i hate people use freedom as justification to blindly kill/vandalizing/beating/block road for ambulance etc. its just another form of oppression and tyranny, check above video see for yourself how other HK resident start against the violent protest now. the rioter already lose UK support on this. if someone block your driveway/road for days, so you can't goto work or hospital etcc, wouldn't you piss off too.
what kind sick man set someone on fire because hes arguing with them to stop the violent protest. thats on ISIS level of cruelty