A question for liberals

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Ronald0, Mar 16, 2013.

  1. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    Animals can't consent. By definition, marrying your horse would be abuse.
     
  2. Serfin' USA

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    As a civil libertarian, I don't particularly care if cousins get married. I wouldn't recommend doing it, however.
     
  3. Troianii

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    No one's. I'm simply asking for you to be logically consistent.
     
  4. For Topical Use Only

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    I have met a few gays who look a bit horsey, does that count? :D

    I'm not going anywhere near the 'what if, therefore gays..' twist in this thread. It's a given for me that gays be able to marry if that's what they want.
     
  5. For Topical Use Only

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    I'm human, inconsistency is in my nature.

    Plus...each person's version of what it is to be 'logically consistent' is bound to differ.

    I don't even really acknowledge a thing called 'logical consistency' other than as a phrase other people use. It's an intellectual construct which doesn't make any sense to me.
     
  6. Makedde

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    I personally believe that consenting adults should be allowed to marry whether they are gay or straight or close relations, no matter how sickening I think it is. I just don't think they should be allowed to have kids.

    But the difference is that a gay couple are not related, cousins have a blood relationship.
     
  7. Troianii

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    . :wtf:
     
  8. RtWngaFraud

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    Very generous of you....

    By your leave?
     
  9. slashbeast

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    Irrelevant.
     
  10. iJoeTime

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    M1, I've seen you post this several times in several different threads. I'd say most people who support gay marriage don't necessarily consider those that oppose it bigots. There are that oppose it tactfully because of religious beliefs but maybe they in turn support civil unions etc. You seem to be in this boat. The bigots are the people like those on this forum who equate gays to mental disease, retardation, etc. They tell us that gays are ruining America and that god is punishing the US because of gays. Those are the bigots. I think you know this though and I wish you would stop asking your silly false question.
     
  11. slashbeast

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    I think a gay couple shouldn't have the ability to adobt, because they are not biologically capable of having children thus they should not have the right to adobt.
     
  12. iJoeTime

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    Cousin' Lovin' is a right wing thing. I say go for it. I will try not to stare at your two headed babies.
     
  13. dairyair

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    Science. A foreign word to some of a certain political party. Has to do with the outcome of offspring.
    But when down to 3rd cousins, not so much a problem.
     
  14. slashbeast

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    I don't think you'll have a chance to stare at two-headed babies. 24/7 gay parades will keep you busy enough. lol
     
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    For me it doesn't since recent studies have shown that marriage between counsins does not really have any more danger of child bearing issues than anyone else.
     
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    Why do some on the right-wing fringe need to continually address most Americans as "liberals"?
     
  17. The Real American Thinker

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    Because clearly, anyone who is not their brand of conservative must be a liberal.
     
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    Apparently, but if you need to pigeonhole as "liberals" all of the American electorate that twice elected the nation's President, and who also voted in greater numbers for both Democratic Senate and Congressional candidates in 2012, who endorse equality in marriage laws and who favour rational gun control regulation, who support a balanced approach to budget balancing that necessitates taxing the very wealthy, etc., you are merely identifying yourself as extremist angry White guys alienated from real Americans.
     
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    Infertile people can't have kids so I guess they shouldn't adopt either.
     
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    Unless it's a man and a woman. A child being raised by affectionate, same sex adults will have a warped idea of what a relationship is supposed to be. Between a man and a woman.
     
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    Marriage between cousins is much more likely to result in birth defects.
     
  22. The Real American Thinker

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    Except that doesn't actually happen in the real world. Kids from a loving, same-sex home recognize a relationship for what it is ACTUALLY supposed to be about: not the gender make-up, but the love and care.
     
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    Not so much anymore, and the effect is lessened depending on how far back the relation is.
     
  24. For Topical Use Only

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    Zero evidence for that so it seems you have a warped idea of what a relationship is supposed to be.
     
  25. Makedde

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    You just said gay people shouldn't get married because they couldn't have kids naturally. Now you change your mind and want straight infertile couples to get married even though they can't have kids.
     

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