A Red Flag Law On Steriods, CA Govenor Signed Today

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  1. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    I was raised in the UK....and, not it’s not similar. Hell, if in Britain, go north to Scotland or to Northern Ireland and it’s not the same.

    As for guns... they are there, if you know where to look.
     
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    Ar-15's are nothing more than ergonomic semi-autos. :)
     
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    Provide an in-depth, detailed list showcasing the criteria used for determining just how the united states are similar to which individual countries within the United Kingdom.

    Once that is done, get back to demonstrating the supposed link between firearms ownership and masculinity.
     
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    You give them an inch and they become rulers.
     
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    So you wish me to write a term paper on how the UK and the US is similar?

    Sorry but the similarity and history is too outstanding to need to play such games with you.

    The one thing however that is not similarity is that UK parents do not need to worry about their children being gun down in their schools or at public events.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But they do worry about them being run down or stabbed.
     
  7. Xenamnes

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    Except for the fact that parents in the united kingdom, the whole united kingdom rather than isolated countries that are held up as examples compared to the united states, do indeed need to worry about such concerns. The united kingdom is mired in violence of all sorts, it is simply not broadcast with the same fetishistic spiel as the united states that is obsessed with violence. Shootings are very common, as is all manner of firearm-related crimes, and bloody violence committed without firearms.
     
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  8. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    You can cherry pick the similarities but it will not change the fact that the cultures are different. Visit the UK; head to a battle cruiser and after a pint see if you can understand the conversation; you will be the butt end of insults, a favorite pastime for Brits entertaining Americans, in which you are clueless and will be standing there with a smile on your face.
    As for difference in cultures, while there suggest to the Brits about you that the cultures are similar... stand for the responses. Yeah, clueless. As for violence, spend an afternoon drinking and then attending a football game between rival clubs.
    The majority of Americans worry as much about their children being shot at school as they do of them being hit by lightning, except for the period after a school shooting when the MSM spends days after endlessly and hysterically spewing their hyperbole. Where children are at more risk is in transit to school high gang areas, areas such as those in Chicago or LA where guns are supposedly already highly regulated.
    Your not so subtle point could have been made just by a comparison, though it would be contested, comparing guns and violence stats in the US vs the UK since that was your obvious point rather than trying to draw clueless inferences between cultures as a baseline first.
    I have lived in both cultures; it’s obvious you haven’t.
    BTW, when I was going to school in the UK, starting at the primary school level, I faced a gauntlet of danger getting to and from school everyday. It was mitigated somewhat when I started carrying a rather large switchblade (13” ovl) every day, followed by carrying a pistol starting at age 8 every day, then by joining a gang that accumulated members along the way having some security in numbers (though that was no guarantee of security from violence). Yep, clueless.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see zero recourse for the innocent. Forget the fact they are forever in a database, forget the fact they might even get their guns back, what they can never get back is their dignity, respect of their family, peers, and neighbors, nor could they ever again trust the fascist state that so flagrantly violated their Constitutional rights. Unless there was a provision that provided those falsely accused with say, $10,000 per day the state violated their rights, this can and will be abused by scum with an agenda. No amount of well wishing would ensure any level of fairness like a hefty payday for the innocent...
     
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