Guys, i think that the insults flying here are bad. this does not encourage the youngsters to continue, as they will flame all the way to a ban. if you were to try to, instead of 'being right' or 'justifying yourself,' nurture new members, i am sure that you would feel proud one day. So, if some guy is flaming the whole forum, why not try to reason with them? i see a lot of old people on here - is that encouraging? wouldn't you like debating to take control of the media one day? then you would maybe be famous, yes? Please try to nurture new skills in people - i am not asking you to eat their poop, but rather to 'bring people up right.'