A Simple Question for Those Are Still Opposed to Same Sex Marriage

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Even now that same sex marriage exists, would Angela actually have rights which would trump Jack's rights? Just because Angela got married to Kathy, how would this affect how the law sees Angela's relationship to the kids?
     
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    So you indoctrinate middle school kids. Calling me by the obvious wrong gender shows that you only walk on water until your panties get bunched in a knot. Hypocrite.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If she loved Jesus....she would know better how to love Troy.
     
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    I can't think how @Renee assumed your gender.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was an attempted slight.
     
  6. Maquiscat

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    Key thing here. Words come into creation, and meanings change. Otherwise "gay", "******", and "queer" have never meant "homosexual".

    Who wants different names for gay couples? Husband and husband or wife and wife works just fine. Did I miss something over the years?
     
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    Amazingly enough, within this "natural law" there are animals who are homosexual and exhibit as such. Interestingly enough they are of about the same proportion as homosexuals among humans. I guess such animals are extreme? However, given that such homosexual animals naturally appear, I don't see that as extreme, simply natural. oh look, we're back at subjective.
     
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    I didn't say that social standards are fictions. I said that there are many things, especially along the lines of roles and clothing fashions, are social fictions. IOW, they do not exist on their own, but have to be created by society and as such are not truly of one sex/gender or the other. There is no such thing as high heels being only for women. That is a social fiction. Especially since men were the first to start wearing high heels. The most recent social standard in the US would have it be that only women wore high heels, but that standard in currently changing.
     
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    Change Angela to Andy and rework the problem. If the problem still remains then SSM did nothing on that particular front.
     
  10. Polydectes

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    as far as fashion goes it is too fickle.

    I disagree there are certain rules that men are better suited for on average and that women are better suited for on average gender roles or the concept thereof came out of this reality. No I do not think reality is as rigid as some people View gender roles but there is a a basis for it in biology.

    fashion is fickle

    men that wear high heels or address or any other form of clothing associated with women are typically referred to as crossdressers or transvestites. So maybe in some time we may see men's high heels but that's not current.
     
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    I'm not sure what you mean.
     
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    ......& male bears eat their young. Maybe we should imitate the animal kingdom.
     
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    You might well do that since you brought up the concept.

    More ridiculous twaddle.
     
  14. Polydectes

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    So you think eating a child is equivalent to having an intimate relationship with a person of the same sex because bears do it?

    Did that make sense to you when you typed it?
     
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    Actually they should have named their daughter Helen ..then she would be Helen of troy
     
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    "twaddle".....oh my, you sound highly sophisticated , might I suppose?
     
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    Is she built??....then we could all her "Troy Built".
     
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    I just said it becase the poster wanted to justify deviant behavior because animals do it. I don't deal in degrees of sin.
     
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    No I think he's making the point that it's not unnatural.
    It's devious not to sin.
     
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    So eating our young would be natural? Oh wait, we do harvest our young then part them out.
    All sin is the same and all do it......even me. We strive for perfection however. Deviant behavior takes you in the opposite direction.
     
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    What?
    perfection is deviance. To deviate is to go against the norm. As far as Christianity goes there is only one person that was perfect. So perfection is deviance.
     
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    As far as Christianity goes..... those that accept the sacrifice for sin, having a changed heart,, and strive for that perfection, are covered from that guilt. There have been millions upon millions. It is not a deviance, it IS a narrow path however but far more attain it than those that chase lustfully after their own gender.
     
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    Deviance is a statistical word. It means deviation from status quo. Status quo is in perfection so therefore Perfection is deviance.

    If you're talking about deviance or deviation from the Bible will do it nobody adheres to the Bible nobody can the Bible even says in Romans 3:23. So everyone except for Christ is a deviant.

    preach to someone that has respect for you.
     
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    or respect for their own body.
     
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    Homosexuality is not disrespect to one's own body.
     

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