a thought about "America is the only country that values gun rights"

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  1. Xenamnes

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    The more people in the united states that are killing themselves off, the better it is for everyone else. They are already overpopulated and overcrowded enough as is. Let them exterminate themselves by the tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, possibly even millions at a time, and eventually their influence over the rest of the world will cease to exist. They do not care, why should anyone else?
     
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    Feel free to find another site. That was the first one I found. Besides, I have no idea what race flogger is. Should I presume white?

    Generically, the US mortality rate as a whole is 849.3 That's still less than reported for England and Wales.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm
     
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    Pride is not a matter that is of any use on the part of myself. Neither is anger, vindictiveness, revenge, loyalty to political ideology or party affiliation, or various other emotionally-based concepts. All that matters, all that is truly of any relevance are facts. Cold, hard, indisputable facts, devoid of bias for one side of the discussion or another.

    The facts in this case is that the united states should be allowed to depopulate itself through whatever means it chooses, as its actions are largely isolated from the rest of the world. Given enough time it will be little more than an uninhabited wasteland, and its unique nature in the world will cease to exist. Whatever its problems may be will go extinct with its people.
     
  4. Richard The Last

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    I read a book one time where a couple had two sons and the four of them were the only people on the planet. Then one day one son killed the other son with a rock. Now that is a high homicide rate!
     
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    With that perspective on things I am not sure that I could ever explain it so you would understand why I have guns.
     
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    Perhaps. You should take that into consideration when posting here. Would you kill someone to defense your life or that of a loved one?
     
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    Given I nor nobody I know wants to shoot anyone I suspect you are correct
     
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    Prove it!
     
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    Didn't say I wanted to; said I would.
     
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    Given that the odds of that are miniscule and that the odds of a vast number of people being endangered as a consequence of the guns you feel are required to mitigate that then no I dont agree with you
     
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    Which part? That barbarians exist in the US, which I believe was your claim, or a really weird answer to a question? Would you kill someone to defend yourself or a love one?
     
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    How can I prove I dont want to kill anyone ?
     
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    Flogger is one of those guys who when in danger will call someone with a gun and pray they get there in time.
     
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    I'm not a savage that wants to shoot anyone nor are my loved ones likely to be threatened as such
     
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    Nope ... Nor does anyone I know
     
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    I guess the same way I am trying to prove I don't want to kill anyone.

    I have insurance on my car, that doesn't mean I want to get into an accident. I own a gun, that doesn't mean I want to shoot someone.
     
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    So what would you do if your life was in danger from someone bigger and stronger than you?
     
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    I'll repeat - I didn't say I wanted to shoot anyone, I said I would. I'm not asking if you would shoot anyone - I'm asking "would you adopt potentially lethal means to defend yourself or your loved ones in the unlikely event their life is threatened?"
     
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    I make no apologies for not living in a violent Hollywood movie. Its boring I know but guns are not the be all and end all of my life
     
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    Were the shoppers in Strasbourg in a Hollywood movie?

    Are these people living in a Hollywood movie?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1245417/Burglary-victims-attacked-home-30-minutes.html

    Are all of these people living in a Hollywood movie?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42815768

    It's a simple question. Yes or no? Would you use lethal force to stop an attack on yourself or a loved one?
     
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    I dont live my life like it was a Hollywood Movie. I know however I'm still some 200 times less likely to be killed as a victim of terrorism in Europe than I am from gun violence in the US and I'm good with that .... are you ?
     
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    Why are you bringing up Hollywood? This is a question about you, and whether you are willing to use non-gun lethal force to protect yourself or your loves ones. Would you?

    I don't care how you live your life.
     
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    As has been said in previous discussions, the united states is not the society of myself.

    As to the rest of the post, what is the importance of such? What harm could be done from the united states continuing to kill off increasingly large portions of itself annually? How would such negatively impact the rest of the world? What possible harm could come about if one day the united states was subject to total depopulation through its own endeavors? What do the people there do that makes their continued existence so important and worthwhile, that those from foreign nations should be concerned about their well being?
     
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    Not only do you not make apologies you also make no attempt to answer the simple question: Would you kill to defend your life or the life of a loved one?
     
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    In a second
     
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