Abortion is as unjust as slavery. An American historical perspective.

There is nothing to address as your post completdly lacks substance. Sorry, but it is true.

Are you autistic (seripus question) or are you just being a smug, little besserwisser on purpose? You know darn well what I meant so there is no need to keep pushing this incoherent crap any further.

Sleeping around with numerous individuals without using protection.

YES! Exactly my point! This is why boys and girls should think twice before going to bed with people they do not wish to enter parenthood with.

This is not an argument.

Actually, it has everything to do with it - If she is in a happy relationship and wishes to become a mother and manages to get preggers with her partner, she won't have an abortion. If she is single, but wishes to enter motherhood she will have an insemination and then not have an abortion. Only in cases of unwanted pregancy will she have an abortion and most of the time, unwanted pregnancies are the result of sleeping with strangers or having an useless boyfriend.

 

Consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy. The most one could claim is that consent to sex is consent to the possibility of pregnancy.

Consent to sex is not consent to the creation of a baby by carrying that pregnancy to term should it occur.

If an unwanted pregnancy occurs - and the woman does not want the pregnancy to continue towards creation of a baby - she can terminate the pregnancy.

 

Consent to unprotected sex is consent to pregnancy just like jumping from the roof of Empire State is consent to death.

 

Repeating nonsense does not make that nonsense any less false.

 

A big so what?

Abortion is legal....a woman who gets pregnant under any circumstances can either have an abortion or have a kid.....I think that power is what you object to or it wouldn't matter to you at all what women do after getting pregnant or matter how they got pregnant....it's up to the woman to decide and that's what really burns you

 

DZ, you can choose a term that you're more comfortable with but I wanted to share with you why I call it an institution, now mind you, I don't see it as an admirable one, to the contrary a very deadly institution if you are one of the powerless and defenseless souls targeted by the practitioners, but by definition an institution nonetheless..

What is an institution? A broad definition from a standard sociological work has been chosen for the term "institution": The organized system of practices and social roles developed about a value or series of values, and the machinery evolved to regulate the practices and administer the rules .... Institutions and laws are produced out of the mores. An institution consists of a concept (idea, notion, doctrine, interest) and a structure. The structure is a framework, or apparatus, or perhaps only a number of functionaries set to cooperate in prescribed ways at a certain conjuncture.

All institutions have a fundamental function of meeting some persistent need or want. It is the author's view that an abortion mill is probably a "deviant crescive institution." Let us now examine the structure, function, operation, integration, and component apparatus organized and maintained by the actors in the abortion mill.

http://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4241&context=jclc
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institution

[in-sti-too-shuh n, -tyoo-]

noun
1. an organization, establishment, foundation, society, or the like,devoted to the promotion of a particular cause or program, especially one of a public, educational, or charitable character: This college is the best institution of its kind.

2. the building devoted to such work.

3. a public or private place for the care or confinement of inmates,especially mental patients or other persons with physical or mental disabilities.

4. Sociology. a well established and structured pattern of behavior or of relationships that is accepted as a fundamental part of a culture, as marriage:
the institution of the family.

5. any established law, custom, etc.

6. any familiar, long-established person, thing, or practice; fixture.

7. the act of instituting or setting up; establishment:
the institution of laws.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/institution

 

It is a crime of convenience, one that the promise of problem solved is a canard as one responsibility/burden is replaced by another with great guilt.

There are casualties in all military wars, collateral losses (innocents lost) are victims, yet no crime has been committed. Abortion is a immoral war against humanity. There is a war on the unborn (males and females) where many mothers to be are misled/victimized, though not all.

In the military there are people with limited/defined sociopathic tendencies/assets, they are NOT sociopaths, but can take life quite easily (when the situation calls for it) without suffering hesitation or doubts/regrets. The military needs people with this specific mindset and commitment. They are part of our defense against a very violent enemy, we're fortunate to have them. Some women who have abortions also have this same mindset however many others are emotionally (some physically) traumatized. These women are victims too.

Society? For whom the bell tolls, dear Fox. Who knows who and what would have been.

Not all homicides are criminal events. When the act and outcome fits the elements of a crime due process should be followed, conversely if even one of the elements of the crime are missing then it is not that crime. .

 

The poster I quoted (DZero) said "Slavery requires law to be slavery." I was pointing out that people can be enslaved without a law protecting slavery. I shared a contemporary example of slavery. Those three girls/women were treated horribly for many years. One had a forced abortion at the hands of her captor.

 

Look who's talking.

Again, you turn to false accusations. Please, just stop it. What burns me is the murdering of unborn babies.

 

Thank you for admitting that you are just emoting rather than wanting to engage in civil discourse regarding abortion.

 

I think YOU should never have an abortion and beyond that you should mind your own business.

 

What do you mean?

 

Histrionics... that's what he means.

 

Nah. That is mainly a female thing. I am just making my case and I have all the right to do that. You have to come up with better insults than that to provoke me.

 

Its not just a female thing....

 

I never said it was. Don't you understand your own language?

 

In response to another poster's statement that slavery only exists when backed by law. And slavery and abortion are in-line and contextual with this topic. Thank you for your question.

 

Since Trump emotes all the time it can't be a female thing.

 

LOLOL.. You're right.

I wonder how he is doing. He sure was petulant yesterday when he walked out of the bill signing.

 

Trump has more mood swings than a fairground and it must be like a rollercoaster ride being with him in the Oval office.

 

Margor2, I believe the answer to speech any one of us may hear and deem offensive is simply more free speech. Abortion is a societal institution and as such I may speak about it as I am, as you are too, a member of society.

As to your attempt, perhaps originating in your superego(?), in silencing another's voice because you don't like or want to hear the idea it conveys, I do protest. However I support the conveyance you've used as it is a protected enumerated right.

 

Why would I "silence" you? I think lumping abortion and slavery together is idiotic.

 

The "why" you would know best; I would consider an intolerance for statements/opinions contrary to your own.

What you call "lumping" I would view as a comparative discernment.

 

Interesting that you would use a theist term like discernment which says volumes about your motivation.

In the secular sense the term implies comprehension and sound judgment both of which are sorely lacking in your posts given that you are fallaciously equating abortion and slavery.

 

Ya got your silly dramatic assinine bells tolling again...I can hear a DING-A-LING from them !!!

I do so adore you justification for war and those inconvenient collateral damage victims...you find killing convenient when it's convenient for what YOU want.....

Shrug, It's always has been only and all about controlling what WOMEN do.....what a STUPID misogynistic sexist remark to compare your admired sociopathic killers with women who have abortion who you don't admire....