While reading about the Canadian doctor, Francis Christian, I came upon a reader's column and very briefly they touched on the holocaust: "karen elliot Jun 26, 2021 2:29 AM Remember that many medical doctors joined the NAZI Party… “The lesson of the Holocaust is that whenever doctors join forces with government and deviate from their personal, professional, clinical commitments to do no harm to the individual, medicine can then be perverted from a healing humanitarian profession to a murderous genocide. What sets the Holocaust apart from all other mass genocides is the pivotal role played by the medical establishment.” (Vera Sharav. Jewish descendant of Holocaust survivors)… Reply tim Jun 26, 2021 3:31 PM Reply to karen elliot complete rubbish from Sharav, as we might expect. There is not a shred of evidence for any medical criminality by the doctors of the Third Reich; the only “evidence” they ever produce is “eye witness testimony” most ( all ) of which should be consigned to the place where it lives and moves and has its being, ie in Hollywood. FYI, Dr Mengele ( for it is he whom we are speaking about, isn’t it? ) was the understudy at Auschwitz of one Dr Wirths, who was called “The Angel of Auschwitz” because of his strenuous efforts to preserve and promote the health and well-being of the inmates, despite the horrendous undermining of that status by continuous 24 / 7 Allied bombing of Germany and its transport and administrative underpinnings. I put it to you that the underling is invariably constrained in his behavior by his superior officer; I also make the radical suggestion that the foundation of our law – at least until recent times – is that a man is considered innocent until he is proved guilty; and Mengele to his dying day asserted this innocence – and so absent the production of this evidence, Mengele is innocent, and Sharav is a deliberate dissembler and liar. Reply Peter Jun 28, 2021 2:55 AM Reply to tim Is there real evidence of Mengele’s alleged experiments/ atrocities ? Reply Arby Jun 27, 2021 2:55 AM Reply to karen elliot Yes. That’s what stood out for me in Dr Sharav’s discussion with Reiner Fuellmich. It wasn’t just the 23 Nazi doctors who the trials prosecuted. It was the entire German (Rockefeller) medical establishment. (Sharav’s organization still manages to push covid 19 propaganda.) Bit by bit the truth is coming to the top: They’re Even Admitting that the Slander of Dr. Mengele Was a Pack of Lies — HOLOCAUST REVISIONISM is perhaps the most institutionally reviled, criminally punished and socially persecuted field of research in modern Western history. Yet, on the much publicized 75th anniversary of the Soviet liberation of Auschwitz, the gatekeepers of the Holocaust continue to give ground, kicking and screaming along the way. The latest example is a new book by former Museum of Jewish Heritage director David G. Marwell, Unmasking the ‘Angel of Death’, which grants many revisionist challenges to the legend of Joseph Mengele. Marwell’s work is considered the most well-researched mainstream biography of Mengele to date. In it, he cross references witness testimony from “survivors” with hard evidence and primary sources, only to conclude that their “memories” were “unreliable.” In other words, they are lying. Stitching together humans to create siamese twins, smashing babies against train cars, attempts to transform boys into girls — all of the barbarism etched into the popular mind about a German in a labcoat, Marwell concludes, is nothing but a pack of atrocious hoaxes. Read more here: https://nationalvanguard.org/2020/0...-of-lies-the-last-days-of-the-holocaust-myth/ ------- Makes you wonder, WHO put a hot iron under their behinds?
The British could decrypt enough to be able to detect if there really was such a monumental genocide going on as you have been professionally deceived into believing. Assuming that just because you can't understand something that was transmitted means that it relates to a monumental genocide is a dismal abuse of logic to arrive at a conclusion you desire. Every analysis of decrypted German radio transmissions arrives at the same fact: "The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”(1) The fact that the Germans did everything possible to prevent deaths sounds more like the German people I've known. (1) “THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE” https://archive.org/stream/BreakingTheSpell_48/BreakingTheSpell-Kollerstrom_djvu.txt
There is more to come: Majdanek: No Longer a Death Camp? Another relatively recent victory won by revisionists is a quiet adjustment by the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum to their page on the Nazi “killing centers,” They have been forced to admit that the Majdanek camp in Poland was not used to exterminate Jews. The USHMM credits “recent research” for retracting what has traditionally been considered the sixth death camp. This is research dissident historians have contributed to while risking their freedoms, employment prospects and lives. Majdanek was the first camp liberated by the Soviet Union, in 1944. There, they found Zyklon-B canisters, ovens and showers, which Soviet propagandists used to declare that over a million Jews were systematically murdered by gas. The evidence provided by the USSR were German documents that they asserted held coded references to systematic homicide gassings. The pattern is similar to what they later argued with Auschwitz, also liberated by the Soviets. Multiple camp guards and commanders were charged with war crimes and given the death penalty based on fictitious claims related to Majdanek. (They owe the families reparations and an apology!!) This fairy tale was promoted by a variety of Jewish and some non-Jewish scholars. In recent years, the death toll itself has been drastically reduced from 1.3 million victims according to the academic Lucy Dawidowicz, to 78,000 according to the chief historian at the camp’s museum today. Revisionists hold that the numbers of people who died, largely of typhus, dysentary, etc, could be half of even that official figure. Read here: https://nationalvanguard.org/2020/0...-of-lies-the-last-days-of-the-holocaust-myth/ ----- Germany should cross out any more reparations payments to holo survivors and Israel! They lied to us Germans!! They slandered us! Pfui!
Nazis (not Germans, please don't confuse them) regarded the Jews as the worst enemy. It was a matter of course for them to kill them. Few Jews were useful to them, so their execution was postponed. The Adolph himself wrote in his testament: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/hitler-s-political-testament-april-1945 Hitler and his Nazis considered it necessary to exterminate the Jews. They were crazy psychopaths. Once again: please don't confuse Nazis with Germans!
Reading that so many people have been professionally brainwashed into believing absolutely impossible anti German makes me sad and resentful of the influential, multi billion dollar Holocaust Industry that is so dishonest that it cheats holocaust survivors and extorts $ Billions from countless governments and other innocent entities around the world. Why do you believe everything claimed by such a disreputable, self serving & untrustworthy Industry - Lobby? Yes, I know the fables about the alleged functions of Monowitz & Birkenau but there was / is no evidence of any "large extermination facility" at Birkenau, just the foundations of what were 2 small, leaky old farmhouses and some ruins that could be anything. You seem to believe eyewitness accounts that are consistent with what you've been told but why don't you believe the many more heavily censored eyewitness accounts that conflict with what you've been brainwashed into believing? For example: - EXCERPT " An Austrian woman, Maria Vanherwaarden, testified about her camp experiences in a Toronto District Court in March 1988. She was interned in Auschwitz-Birkenau in 1942 for having sexual relations with a Polish forced laborer. On the train journey to the camp, a Gypsy woman told her and the others that they would all be gassed at Auschwitz. Upon arrival, Maria and the other women were ordered to undress and go into a large concrete room without windows to take a shower. The terrified women were sure that they were about to die. But then, instead of gas, water came out of the shower heads." CONTINUED - EXCERPT " A Jewish woman named Marika Frank arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau from Hungary in July 1944, when 25,000 Jews were supposedly gassed and cremated daily. She likewise testified after the war that she heard and saw nothing of gas chambers during the time she was interned there. She heard the gassing stories only later." CONTINUED. (1) Earlier, I cited a source confirming that the homicidal gas chamber myth was a product of Allied propaganda leaflets and the following source shows that out of thousands of autopsies not one individual was killed by gassing: EXCERPT "Dr. Larson performed autopsies at Dachau and some twenty other German camps, examining on some days more than 100 corpses. After his grim work at Dachau, he was questioned for three days by US Army prosecutors. Dr. Larson’s findings? In a 1980 newspaper interview he said: “What we’ve heard is that six million Jews were exterminated. Part of that is a hoax.” And what part was the hoax? Dr. Larson, who told his biographer that to his knowledge he “was the only forensic pathologist on duty in the entire European Theatre” of Allied military operations, confirmed that “never was a case of poison gas uncovered.” CONTINUED (2) Additionally, there is not a single photograph, document, blueprint, work order or invoice for homicidal gas chambers in the tons of documents seized from the Germans after the war: “The 'Problem of the Gas Chambers’” http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v01/v01p103_Faurisson.html EXCERPT “Concerning the crematoria of Auschwitz, there is just as there is generally for the entire camp an overabundance of documents and invoices down to the last penny. However, concerning the "gas chambers" there is nothing: no contract for construction, not even a study, nor an order for materials, nor a plan, nor an invoice, nor even a photograph. In a hundred war crimes trials, nothing of the sort was ever produced.”CONTINUED Finally, I've repeatedly asked you to account for the lack of human remains that would indicate that about 1.1 million people were killed at Auschwitz-Birkenau-Monowitz but you refuse to answer because they don't exist. They don't exist because they either disappeared into Stalin's gulags or were transported somewhere else. Where are the remains? (1) "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts" http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml (2) “Allied Forensic Autopsies Confirm Disease, Not Gas” https://20thcenturytruth.wordpress.com/allied-forensic-autopsies-confirm-disease-not-gas/
And then there is The Immovable Force of Auschwitz If you’ve noticed that the Holocaust story appears more centered around Auschwitz than usual, it’s because this is the last straw Holocaustians have to grasp on. https://nationalvanguard.org/2020/0...-of-lies-the-last-days-of-the-holocaust-myth/ ------- I wouldn't hold my breath yet. They are a powerful people, holding Europe and America in check. The holocaust has played its role. It is now a tool to enforce and tighten the Antisemitism laws with which to control the masses. Recently I started reading about... A Jew who told the truth This article asserts that if Whites understood the depths to which Jews control our countries and their institutions of power and the way in which they wield that power in an effort to destroy our interests, we would rise-up and eradicate them immediately. (No, we wouldn't!) https://chechar.wordpress.com/2018/12/07/a-jew-who-told-the-truth/ https://hojaseliminadas.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/fair-race-15-sep-20.pdf ------- I doubt we non-goyim would do anything. 75 years of brainwashing, the post-war generations not knowing any better; most countries, for sure Germany, would lay down and obey orders. What do the forum members say?
Nope, it's because Auschwitz-Birkenau had the most professional and efficient facilities for mass murder on a large scale. No other extermination camp could turn so many people into ashes in such a short time. Why do the dumbest Holocaust deniers always think they can change history? They haven't managed that in 70 years. And yet they keep telling that the "Holocaust lie" is about to fall.
Re: You seem to have forgotten that there were Jews who rose to high ranks in both the Nazi Party(1) and in Germany's diverse military (2), (3) Re: Good point. Even though Germans comprised only about 10% - 12% of Germany's National Socialist party, it is the innocent German people who have been extorted out of $ Billions by the insatiably greedy Holocaust Industry that still wants more money(4), (5). If it's not about the money, why, then, is no amount of money enough? (1) "List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent EXCERPT "Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of full and partial Jewish descent."CONTINUED (2) “Hitler’s Jewish Army” http://counterpsyops.com/2013/02/14/...-hitlers-army/ EXCERPT “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s knowledge and approval. In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded(*)Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross. Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police(Ordnungdienst)(*)and concentration camp guards(*)(kapos). So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism? “If the Jews were permitted to serve in Hitler’s armed forces then there could not have been a Holocaust.”CONTINUED (3) "Adolf Hitler’s Armed Forces: A Triumph for Diversity?" https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/1/3/3102 EXCERPTS " I ask those historians who still believe that Hitler and the Nazis were “white supremacists”: how do you account for the incredible degree of non-German and ethnic minority (i.e., 150,000 Jews and Jewish Mischlinge) collaboration during World War II? Again, some two million non-Germans helped the Nazis. The important thing to realize is that had the Nazis been as racist as most historians have argued, then they could not possibly have garnered the immeasurable level of support that they did. Even after Stalingrad; Spaniards, Slavs, Franks, and tens of- thousands of other non-Germans continued to fight for the Nazis on a volunteer basis. Frenchmen and Arab volunteers gave their lives in the final fight for the capital of Berlin in 1945. Hitler continued to allow thousands of Jewish men to serve, and many did so with incredible tenacity and valor. One has to call into question whether all of these Jewish men and other non-Germans were really as opposed to the Nazi regime as they have claimed after the fact. Their tenacity and determination suggests otherwise in many cases. The Jewish soldiers Bernhard Rogge, Helmuth Wilberg, Erhard Milch, and Ernst Prager come to mind. The Nazis never racially segregated their troops. Blacks, Slavs, Asians, and Arabs fought shoulder-to-shoulder with Germans."CONTINUED (4) "80 years on, Austria’s Jews renew demand for Holocaust reparations" https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/news/world_news/years-on-austria-s-jews-renew-demand-for-holocaust-reparations/article_20c2a8b0-3725-5281-9c09-2c0751fae4c2.html (5) "Children of Holocaust survivors want German government to pay for psychiatric care"
They were useful for the Nazis, so their execution was delayed for an indefinite time. We already discussed this but you probably forgot it again. Hitler's war cost many lives and destroyed many material goods. The Federal Republic of Germany is considered the legal successor of the Nazi regime. Therefore, today's Germany had to pay the reparations. Regarding Holocaust victims, Germany paid about 63 billion euros until 2005. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_reparations
What would you do, if you'd become a powerful dictator? Would you finish Adolph's work to wipe the Jews off the planet?
To date, construction plans, invoices, and the entire business correspondence between camp management and construction companies exist. There's no doubt, that the gas chambers and crematoria were built and operational. And they also were used! Many details can be found in Pressac's* book: http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/lookupid?key=olbp33554 *) Jean Claude Pressac, a former french Holocaust denier who found out through his own research that the Holocaust is not a lie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Claude_Pressac
Re: At this point, when you evade my questions and make statements like this that are such complete nonsense I can only conclude that you're doing so to keep from being locked up because of totalitarian "holocaust denial" laws. I so rarely run across someone who so desperately evades questions and ignores physical realities that it must be fear of holocaust denial laws that cause to make such transparently absurd statements that no rational person would make. The following are irrefutable facts that debunk the myths you must recite in order to stay out of jail: - There was only enough coke/coal delivered to Auschwitz-Birkenau-Monowitz (ABM) to cremate about 70,000 people. - The cremated remains of 1.1 million people would be impossible to hide, not impossible to find if they existed. - The water that comprises about 75% of the human body does not burn. - There were no homicidal gas, steam or electrocution chambers. - Nowhere have any blueprints, work orders, photos, materials lists etc for homicidal gas chambers been found in the tons of Nazi documents recovered. - If and when an inmate was executed, he or she was either shot or hung, not gassed. - Western doctors did thousands of autopsies and not one showed death by gassing. - Real death camps like Eisenhower's and Stalin's don't have hospitals, adequate food or maternity facilities. Re: The fact that only about 1/3 of the world actually believes the holocaust myth(1) shows that we've come a long way from the earlier hoaxes like "human skin lampshades", "human fat soap", "human skin pocketbooks" and vaporizer machines(2) (1)”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS” https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/05/the-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/ EXCERPT "Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts. Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth. Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust." - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated. - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED (2) "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts" http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales."CONTINUED
European laws have no meaning here. I ignore questions that were already answered several times. What you're selling here as a physical reality is often just wishful thinking. You're just trying to deceive. There is no other way of denying the Holocaust. HC denial doesn't work without trickery and deliberate deception.
Re: I'm glad that you finally admit that the Jews who were high ranking Nazi Party members and voluntary members of Hitler's military were among the millions of Jews who were never executed by the Nazis and people were not executed just for being Jewish. They were executed for being real or perceived threats to Germany and its war effort. According to Jewish sources, the world's Jewish population grew by about 4 million during the war years(1) so the fable that "6 million Jews" were murdered is as false as it was when it was claimed over 100 times before(2) (1) "Was there Really a Holocaust?" https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/wasthere.htm EXCERPT "The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanac's figures were supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Next the Jewish-owned New York Times of February 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish population for that year amounted "to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000 in addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine." How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?"CONTINUED (2) "167 newspaper and other references to "Six Million Jews" 1900-1945" http://www.whatreallyhappened.info/6Mx167.html
They only survived because after 1945 the Nazis no longer were in power. The Nazis defined Jews as a race that was directed against Aryans by nature. Some Jewish lives were spared temporarily from murder, but ultimately all of them were destined to die. The Nazis even halted Jewish migration to Palestine, in order to kill as many Jews as possible. It was not enough for the Nazis to expatriate the Jews. They should die! Nazis called this "The final solution of the Jewish question" This figure of argumentation of Holocaust deniers is widely known as "World Almanac Gambit": http://nizkor.com/features/techniques-of-denial/worldalmanac.html Besides that, it was not only among Nazi-occupied areas that Jews lived, who could cause this increase in population.
Re: You're evading the point again. If the Nazis wanted to exterminate all Jews simply for being Jewish they would not have permitted Jews to be either members of the Nazi Party or high ranking members of Germany's military. Additionally, millions of Jews in German occupied Europe simply lived among Germany's Catholics, Lutherans etc so it is another myth that the Nazis arrested every Jew they could get their hands on. The Nazis were enemies of the Communists not the Jews and at the time, about 52% - 80% of the Communist Party happened to be Jewish. Most Jews who were arrested were arrested for political activism or partisan acts, not simply because they were Jewish. I believe it was Hermann Goering who declared: "I decide who is a Jew" and I doubt that he was the only official who frequently declared Jews to be non Jews. I'm certainly not trying to justify totalitarianism but simply correct another deception that's been fed to you by the Hollywood - Holocaust Industry consortium. Re: More unsupported hyperbole, plus, we're all "... destined to die" Re: Nonsense. The British blocked Jewish immigration into Palestine and the Haavara Agreement between the German Zionist Federation and the Nazi government began in 1933 and ended because Americans and the British were targeting German ships even before the outbreak of WW 2. In 1939, the ship MS St. Louis carried 900 Jews to America and Canada, was denied permission to land and went back to Europe. As I've shown repeatedly, if the Nazis wanted to kill as many Jews as possible they wouldn't have allowed them into the Nazi Party or Germany's military. Re: Nizkor is infamously heavy on slander and light on facts plus, numbers simply don't lie. Both the before and after numbers were provided by Jewish sources, they weren't made up by the World Almanac publishers: EXCERPT "The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanac's figures were supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Next the Jewish-owned New York Times of February 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish population for that year amounted "to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000 in addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine." How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?"CONTINUED (3) Additionally, according to the Wannsee Minutes, there were only 4.5 million Jews under Nazi control at its highest point yet Germany has already paid out to 4.3 million holocaust survivors(4) WW 2 is not the first time it has been claimed that "6 million Jews" were killed, endangered, starving etc. From 1900 to 1945 the figure of "6 million Jews" has been used as a casualty number in at least 167 incidents(5). As early as 1944, Nahum Goldmann wrote: "Yes, the Germans murdered close to six million Jews...". The figure is outrageously false then and it is equally false today but countless innocent Germans have been murdered and $ Billions have been extorted based on an outrageously fraudulent casualty count. Finally, those who have been professionally deceived by the wealthy, corrupt and influential Holocaust Industry blindly believe that the Germans are responsible for the deaths of 6 million Jews and 5 million others however there are very few if any remains left at any of the alleged "Death Camps". Some of the most outrageous stories have been fabricated to account for their disappearance from a "recently invented vaporizer"(6) to bodies that are 75% water burning without fuel. So, if millions of people were murdered, where are the remains? Even cremation leaves bones and teeth but to this day nowhere near billions of bones and teeth are anywhere near any of the German run camps. EXCERPT "To this day there is no air photo evidence to support the alleged mass murder of the Jews at any location in Europe occupied by the Germans during World War Two. Further, air photo analysis refutes the claim that the 'Nazis' had intended, at whatever time, to keep events in the alleged extermination camps secret."CONTINUED (7) Where are the remains of millions of people? (1) "Full text of "The Wolf Of The Kremlin biography of Kaganovich" https://archive.org/stream/TheWolfOfTheKremlin/The+Wolf+of+the+Kremlin_djvu.txt EXCERPT “That Trotsky, unquestionably the most outstanding man among the Bolsheviks, was a Jew did not seem an insuperable obstacle in a party” in which the percentage of Jews, 52 percent, was rather high compared to the percentage of Jews (1.8 percent) in the total population.” CONTINUED (2) “Putin: First Soviet government was mostly Jewish” https://www.jpost.com/jewish-world/...st-soviet-government-was-mostly-jewish-317150 EXCERPT “Russian President Vladimir Putin said that at least 80 percent of the members of the first Soviet government were Jewish.” CONTINUED (3) "Was there Really a Holocaust?" https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/wasthere.htm (4) "The Wannsee Conference: Another Lie Crushed" http://barnesreview.org/the-wannsee-conference-another-lie-crushed/ EXCERPT "The actual minutes of the Wannsee Conference can be read in their entirety—in the original German here, In reality, the Wannsee meeting and its minutes do not contain a master plan to kill Jews; – Nowhere in the meeting’s minutes is genocide discussed, planned, proposed, or even suggested; – The Wannsee meeting never discussed gas chambers, shootings, or any of the fantasies propagated by the exterminationists; – The Wannsee Minutes reported that there were only 4.5 million Jews under German control (yet 4.3 million Jewish compensation claims have been lodged against the postwar German government); – The Wannsee meeting was a planning meeting on how Europe’s Jews should be deported, via transit camps, to the East; with able-bodied Jews being forced to build roads and other labor intensive tasks in those regions; – The Wannsee Conference also made allowance for specific exceptions to Jewish evacuation, such as Jewish German World War I veterans; ALL Jews over the age of 65; and ALL Jews working in industries vital to the German war effort, to be released from the threat of evacuation and be allowed to stay in Germany. There is therefore, no justification for the allegation that the Wannsee Conference was a ‘master plan for mass murder’ and everyone who claims this to be the case, from Netanyahu down, is simply lying." CONTINUED (5) "167 newspaper and other references to "Six Million Jews" 1900-1945" http://www.whatreallyhappened.info/6Mx167.html EXCERPT #165 1944 - Nahum Goldmann, Jewish Western Bulletin, December 8th, 1944: " ... apart from Jewish losses in combat service, 5,500,000 Jews have been killed in Germany and German-occupied tesritories [territories] since the outbreak of the awr [war]. These figures exceed the number anticipated even by the most pessimistic. ... Yes, the Germans murdered close to six million Jews ... " #166 1944 - Ilya Ehrenburg, Soviet War News, December 22nd, 1944: "In the regions they seized, Germans killed all Jews, from the old folks to infants in arms. Ask any German prisoners why his fellow countrymen annihilated six million innocent people ... " CONTINUED (6) "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts" http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." [8] No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales."CONTINUED (7) “Air Photo Evidence” http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndaerial.html
You seem to deny not only the Holocaust but the complete persecution of the Jews by the Nazis. The Nazis were at war and needed every experienced person in the military and administration, Jewish or not. The Jews could still be killed after they had served their purpose. In spite of all the madness, one can expect a bit of rationality from the Nazis.
I've neither denied that the holocaust happened nor that many Jews were persecuted. I simply believe that the Hollywood - Holocaust Industry "product" has been grossly exaggerated and crassly exploited at the expense of Germany and the German people. I've simply shown where you contradict yourself. You've said that the Nazis arrested "... every Jew that they could get their hands on". Since I've shown that Jews were high ranking members of the Nazi Party and high ranking members of Germany's military, what you believed earlier is false. Re: There is absolutely no evidence to confirm this claim. In fact, Hitler honored Jewish WW 1 Veterans already in Palestine(1) after they "...had served their purpose.". If Hitler hated Jews as much as you've been led to believe, why did he do this? Of course you'll evade this question just like you have scores of previous ones. Re: You're simply confirming the same facts related in the following source: "Adolf Hitler’s Armed Forces: A Triumph for Diversity?" https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/1/3/3102 EXCERPTS " I ask those historians who still believe that Hitler and the Nazis were “white supremacists”: how do you account for the incredible degree of non-German and ethnic minority (i.e., 150,000 Jews and Jewish Mischlinge) collaboration during World War II? Again, some two million non-Germans helped the Nazis. The important thing to realize is that had the Nazis been as racist as most historians have argued, then they could not possibly have garnered the immeasurable level of support that they did. Even after Stalingrad; Spaniards, Slavs, Franks, and tens of- thousands of other non-Germans continued to fight for the Nazis on a volunteer basis. Frenchmen and Arab volunteers gave their lives in the final fight for the capital of Berlin in 1945. Hitler continued to allow thousands of Jewish men to serve, and many did so with incredible tenacity and valor. One has to call into question whether all of these Jewish men and other non-Germans were really as opposed to the Nazi regime as they have claimed after the fact. Their tenacity and determination suggests otherwise in many cases. The Jewish soldiers Bernhard Rogge, Helmuth Wilberg, Erhard Milch, and Ernst Prager come to mind. The Nazis never racially segregated their troops. Blacks, Slavs, Asians, and Arabs fought shoulder-to-shoulder with Germans." CONTINUED You keep evading the question that no victim of Holocaust Industry deception can answer including @RoccoR who seems to be following this thread. If the Nazis really murdered and cremated 1.1 million people at Auschwitz, there would be mountains of bones and teeth as remains(2). WHERE ARE ALL THE REMAINS? Don't look for the answer at Nizkor, they just slander people who ask it. (1) “When Hitler Honored Jewish Soldiers” https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-when-hitler-honored-jewish-soldiers-1.5254336 EXCERPT “The Nazi regime conferred honors on many of the 100,000 Jews who fought in the German army in the Great War, even on some who had already escaped to Palestine.” CONTINUED (2) "9 Things About Cremation" https://www.elementalnw.com/2014/05/26/9-things-cremation/ EXCERPT "2. You don’t get ash back. What’s really returned to you is the person’s skeleton. Once you burn off all the water, soft tissue, organs, skin, hair, cremation container/casket, etc., what you’re left with is bone." CONTINUED
REF: About the Holocaust SUBTOPIC: Questions of Evidence ⁜→. Grau, Pitbull, et al, BLUF: The evidence ifs fairly conclusive that a Genocidal Like Program had taken place over an extended period of time. But the generalized numbers of victims are "best estimates." (PRESENTATION) YouTube Link: The Auschwitz Album- Visual Evidence of the Process Leading to the Mass Murder at Auschwitz-Birkenau (COMMENT) I have seen a number of documents, such as the "Hartheim Register" that show the way in which the Germans processed the recorded their production. I've look at the presentation named: 33 Holocaust Victims Pictures That Reveal The True Horrors Of The Concentration Camps, By Mark Oliver | Checked By John Kuroski Published December 20, 2018. Updated December 28, 2018. I have seen the exemplars from the Holocaust Encyclopedia. There was literally mountains of evidence (huge piles of glasses, jewry, shoes, clothing and luggage) collected by the documented by the Allied Powers. And I've looked at "Extract From Evidence Given at the Nuremberg Trials on the Auschwitz Extermination Camp" (Military Tribunal). While the numbers may vary, there is little doubt that the magnitude of the extermination process was in the millions. What really surprised me was that there was a statistically significant epigenetic trail from the Holocaust survivors. And again surprised to learn that there are latent Jewish heritage lines uncovered by molecular anthropologists (we're talking about long-lost ancestor origins). I have no trouble at all buying into the huge numbers. But there will always be margins of error and mental opposition as to the the numbers captured. Some of the questions are, for sure, very valid. But we are now at the point in history where the actual numbers are forever lost. (NOTE) My uncle was cremated, and I was there when they scooped up his remains. Other than the pins in his leg and the metal plate in his shoulder, there was no visually identifiable remains that I would associate with human remains. Now, having said that, there is always some trace evidence of the that can be detected using 21st Century Technology. But with the exception of a very few intrepid investigators in 1945, there probably would not be very many mass grave hunters. But periodically, Mass Graves are still being found in the course of some unrelated activity. And as evidence keeps emerging, a fissure in the minimalist numbers grows deeper. Most Respectfully, R
Hello RoccoR, I appreciate your response. Yes, lots of big numbers have been claimed by the fraudulent Holocaust Industry (1), (2) that has repeatedly been caught falsifying figures, filing false claims and even cheating holocaust survivors. The same people who lied about human skin lampshades, human fat soap, human skin pocketbooks and homicidal gas, steam and electrocution chambers(3) have been lying about the number of people killed at Auschwitz and elsewhere. Briefly put, the Holocaust Industry claimed that 4 million people were murdered at Auschwitz. When it was revealed that that figure was based solely on the "confessions" of a man beaten nearly to death, it was lowered to an equally impossible 1.1 million. According to captured documents, there was only enough coal delivered to Auschwitz to cremate about 70,000 people. Crude and rushed cremations like those done at Auschwitz leave the skeletal remains and teeth. Your uncle's "ashes" were not simply ashes unless he was burned longer and at a higher temperature than was possible in the 1940s. According to the crematorium I cited(4), the skeletal remains are allowed to cool and then ground in a mechanical bone grinding machine to appear like the granulated substance you received. While manual bone grinding machines existed at the time, there is no evidence that they existed or would have been used at Auschwitz because of time constraints. Additionally, the captured Auschwitz Death Ledger states that 68,864 people died at Auschwitz of all causes as of December 1942. This detailed Death Ledger shows that most deaths were caused by disease, natural causes while only a relatively few were executed by hanging or shooting. There is no mention of anyone being "gassed" to death. It is claimed by the Holocaust Industry that about 424,000 Hungarian Jews were transported to Auschwitz in 1944 where they were all allegedly murdered(5). In reality, they were simply transported to other camps. The Communists "liberated" Auschwitz in January of 1945 only to rape many of the inmates(6) and send other "undesirables" to distant gulags where, unlike Auschwitz, Red Cross visitations were forbidden. The influential, multi billion Holocaust Industry - Lobby that has been caught in countless lies so far claims that 1.1 million people were murdered at Auschwitz based only on partial transportation records. My question to those who have been professionally deceived by the Holocaust Industry and its complicit MSM is where are the unburned bodies and billions of bones and teeth that would have been left from crude and rushed cremations? Since only enough coke/coal was shipped to Auschwitz to cremate 70,000 people, most could not even have been cremated and there would have been hundreds of thousands of corpses. So, if the "evil Germans" managed to murder 1.1 million people, where are the physical remains? Auschwitz, like other grisly Holocaust Industry theme parks has props to dazzle and shock gullible tourists. Among them are piles of shoes, glasses etc. What tourists are not told is that Auschwitz also maintained shoe, eyeglass and other repair facilities for the neighboring towns and villages. Finally, please don't mistake my rejection of the fraudulent holocaust narrative as any form of anti Jewish or pro Nazi sentiment. In addition to the murder of thousands of innocent German POWs as war criminals for crimes they did not commit, the German people continue to pay and be slandered for a genocide that they did not commit. Thanks for your time... (1)"17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE" http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED (2)"HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION" http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298 EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED (3) "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death" https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/ EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED (4) "9 Things About Cremation" https://www.elementalnw.com/2014/05/26/9-things-cremation/ EXCERPT "2. You don’t get ash back. What’s really returned to you is the person’s skeleton. Once you burn off all the water, soft tissue, organs, skin, hair, cremation container/casket, etc., what you’re left with is bone. When complete, the bones are allowed to cool to a temperature that they can be handled and are placed into a processing machine. It looks like a mean margarita blender, and they are processed down to the consistency of ash, where they get their misnomer name."CONTINUED (5) “Deaths at Auschwitz, 1942” http://www.whatreallyhappened.info/decrypts/deaths_at_auschwitz_1942_v3.pdf EXCERPT “More Catholics than Jews died at Auschwitz. That is the plain testimony of these Death Books. We Reject.... It has been averred that ‘Up to 175,000’ Jews were deported to Auschwitz by the end of 1942 . That is impossibly high, because less than forty percent of all inmates were Jewish: a figure of fifty or sixty thousand would be more reasonable. Likewise Mr Jan van Pelt averred that ‘In 1942, two hundred thousand Jews were gassed in buildings 1 and 2.’8 There cannot have been anything like such numbers arriving: and the Death Books have around onethirtieth that number of Jews die in that year! These texts tend to claim that huge numbers of Jews arrived without being registered (and were gassed right away), however we would rather stick to documented data. Grand Total: 68,864 deaths” CONTINUED (6) “Raped by their saviours: How the survivors of Auschwitz escaped one nightmare only to face another unimaginable ordeal” https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...aped-nightmare-faced-unimaginable-ordeal.html (7) "A Factual Appraisal Of The 'Holocaust' By The Red Cross The Jews And The Concentration Camps: No Evidence Of Genocide" http://www.polskawalczaca.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=18054 EXCERPT "In dealing with this comprehensive, three-volume Report, it is important to stress that the delegates of the International Red Cross found no evidence whatever at the camps in Axis occupied Europe of a deliberate policy to exterminate the Jews. In all its 1,600 pages the Report does not even mention such a thing as a gas chamber. It admits that Jews, like many other wartime nationalities, suffered rigours and privations, but its complete silence on the subject of planned extermination is ample refutation of the Six Million legend." CONTINUED
REF: About the Holocaust SUBTOPIC: Questions of Motived ⁜→ Grau, Pitbull, et al, BLUF: The subject of numbers [the magnitude of the event(s)] is not nearly as important as is the Qualitative Evaluation (collection, analysis, and impact outcomes). (COMMENT) People, like myself, have to be careful as to the motives behind and investigation and the contamination of the evidence. To look at the events of the "Holocaust," we must first brush away the preconceived notions that lead an investigation either one way or another. We have to look at what is there, but not forget to question what is not there. And most importantly, we must rid the investigations of hidden agendas. And in the "Question of the Holocaust," these very things mentioned here have tainted both the judicial and criminal level of evidence as well as the historical interpretation of the evidence. The questions you raised are important when looking at the single issue (the Holocaust), but as World War II (the greater event) developed and transitioned from a political discord to a multinational conflict → the "Holocaust" had virtually no impact as a cause for war. In fact, the US did not even declare war on Germany, but rather it was Germany that declared war on the United States. And the American (collective) Conscious was so unaffected by the "Holocaust" that → America turned away Jewish refugees (example: SS St Louis) fleeing Germany. (THE NUMBERS) It was not until 1943, that Principle Allied Powers (United States, United Kindom, Soviet Union) agreed on The Moscow Conference. And still later yet (1945) the signed the London Agreement (Nuremberg Charter) that allowed the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg (IMT-N) to legitimately form. Now, what I find interesting is that Count Four of the Indictment read in part: ◈ Jews were systematically persecuted since 1933; they were deprived of their liberty, thrown into concentration camps where they were murdered and ill-treated. Their property was confiscated. Hundreds of thousands of Jews were so treated before 1 September 1939. ◈ Since 1 September 1939, the persecution of the Jews was redoubled: millions of Jews from Germany and from the occupied Western Countries were sent to the Eastern Countries for extermination. ◈ In November 1938, by orders of the Chief of the Gestapo, anti-Jewish demonstrations all over Germany took place. Jewish property was destroyed, 30,000 Jews were arrested and sent to concentration camps and their property confiscated. ✦ Under paragraph VIII (A), above, millions of the persons there mentioned as having been murdered and ill-treated were Jews. ✦ Among other mass murders of Jews were the following: ✧ At Kislovdosk all Jews were made to give up their property: 2,000 were shot in an anti-tank ditch at Minerallye Vodi: 4,300 other Jews were shot in the same ditch. ✧ 60,000 Jews were shot on an island on the Dvina near Riga. ✧ 20,000 Jews were shot at Lutsk. ✧ 32,000 Jews were shot at Sarny. ✧ 60,000 Jews were shot at Kiev and.Dniepropetrovsk. ✧ Thousands of Jews were gassed weekly by means of gas-wagons which broke down from overwork. ✧ As the Germans retreated before the Soviet Army they exterminated Jews rather than allow them to be liberated Many. concentration camps and ghettos were set up in which Jews were incarcerated and tortured, starved, subjected to merciless atrocities, and finally exterminated. ✧ About 70,000 Jews were exterminated in Yugoslavia. To do this type of investigatory effort justice it would have had to consist of a (1945 capable) multi-disciplined (Biologist, Geologist, Medical Examiners, Pathologist, Forensic Scientists, and Mobile Lab Technicians) Team with a small construction crew with them. But I'm quite sure that they did not go to that length. Most Respectfully, R
