AfD works...how the far right changed the german parliament

Only replying to what you wrote. What were you expecting? I can only reply to the information you give and that is exactly what I did.

 

seems Merkel is looking better to form a coalition with her old partners.

 

For other people on this thread. In relation to this song by the Kinks released in 1984 called then I believe 'Living on a thin line' Here is how it is now being produced and it ought to be obvious the people who have revived it with it's new name and video.. at the time it was not a success - now it appears to be known even over the water.

 

The EU lacks a political solid and democratic architecture, so it will fail in creating a feeling of solidarity and loyality to such a political unit. Or if at all, they unite Europeans in rejection of this. There are some nations that write a paycheck to get some grip of some other nations (normally poorer) to get access to their market and get some control over it. As long as this economic cooperation in that way is fertile for both sides, it will continue, as soon as the profit is doubtworthy the countries will the EU one after another.

At the moment Germany has become the political head and leader of the EU, but as the EU is constructed, its all up to economic power it could change e.g. when Germany slides into an economic crisis.

 

Obviously, Germany is neither a super power nor a failed state or something. You can compare it with Japan (although Japan by far the larger population thus even more important), high standards in technology and science, thus economically strong and very influential, but it simply does not have the capacity to be a super power in the sense of China or the US.

After all its good not to be involved in the headlines in the news. China is not too often mentioned as well compared to its power and it will be the undoubted the world leader in at least 30-50 years.

 

We don't agree on a lot, but here I definitely have to agree with you. A little less "the universe revolves around us" wouldn't hurt many of our yank friends.

 

Of course Germany does matter, but not in the sense the dick-measuring-contestswill tell us. Germany as well as Sweden and many other Western European countries are sickened by political correctness. You see here in a kind of test tube the kind of state that would be the outcome if America was run by Clintons, Obamas and Carters only.

We have rather opportunistic politicians, who are by far not all left-wing nutcases, but these opportunists look how they get good critics by left-wing nutcases who work in the media. The AFD represents the uprising against these political elites that is necessary. We Germans do take the burden of corrupt and incompetent elites very long, if we can smash our elites with the press and their political correctness, everyone can.

 

Behaving like opportunists is something politicians have to do in order to survive as politicians, unfortunately. The alternative is to try being a despot, beloved or otherwise. In our systems, they must try to please enough of the people enough of the time while also trying to do The Right Thing™, such as with the refugee crisis, and I think the Germans with Frau Merkel have done an admiral job of attempting to cope with that, as have France, Great Britain and other significantly affected countries, such as Greece and Italy. It's easy to sit around criticising the politicians for what we perceive as mistakes in their policies, but what would we do, indeed what could we do, in their place?

 

We can hope not. We can only hope the Nationalists can be effective. Major struggles with a shutdown here in the USA over this sort of thing. I've written before, in this forum, that the West has social problems. The hurdles to family formation are too formidable. So the elites are importing people to mask over, rather than solve, those problems. All but stop immigration, as is the case in Japan, and maybe then the elites will work to fix the problems. (Downside: Japan doesn't fix things in time, and they too start papering over their failures through immigration. If that is done, bye bye Japan, hello island of the new Global order). I wish them luck.

 

Why should America care about Germany politics?

 

Yeah, seems to be working out well:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/01/politician-converts-islam-quits-afd-party-180124124119851.html

 

Could this be a case of 'If you can't beat 'em, join 'em'?

 

WTF is your problem with democratic rule? 13 million voters got totally outvoted by others. Deal with it.

/facepalm

 

Nope, in Germany we dont have dictatorship. We have democracy which means evry party must be part of the decission making.

 

Not up to the degree that ist common here, no. To some degree yes, but we had politicians here for a long time who did not let the press dictate the agenda.

She has broken laws, she flooded Germany with militant Sunni muslims and war criminals.

 

Yesterday I was reading in another forum and a Brit begged the US not to go down the liberal path the UK has. He said he was formerly from London but had to move out because of the hostile immigrants. He said he recently visited and took his dog for a walk in the park. He said he was stopped by a gang of immigrants who told him never to walk his dog in "their" park. They told him dogs are filthy creatures and if he does it again they will kill the dog and beat him up. He reported it to the police who warned him about inciting racial hatred.

 

Maybe he should have walked a camel...

 

Maybe he should have been more Brit and less wussy.
Now he is a migrant. Pfft.

There has always been gangs of bullies in parks mate.
Always been jobsworth Police.

Always been those who perceive themselves as victims of society and always been those willing to pick your battles for you.


Germany has a split identity with regards to immigration.
While we expect all the usual resistance and dislike to immigration, just as we would see anywhere else, and also we expect all the usual sentimentalism towards migrants in need as we would see any where else, Germany has an extra element here. It's dark past and the human need for those involved in it to make amends.

As Sobo puts it, in a democracy all parties must be catered for. All of them.

 

LMAO... no it's not.

Democracy as good as always works with a 50% + 1 vote.
So the majority gets to ignore the minority.

 

He is wrong. When a majority wants something, than they just outvote the minority.
It's not as if the Dems get to say where the US embassy in Israel is going to be and the GOP must comply.

 

That's not democracy mate.
That's mob rule.

 

It's majority rule. Just dumb to whine how democracy actually works.

 

Sobo has it right.
Democracy is not majority rule.

Democracy is the rule of the people. Not the mob.

Americans harp on about "checks and balances" because democracy is not a system for rulership as much as it is a system to prevent rulership.
To limit power over others.

Mob rule, the tyranny of the majority, is a failure of democracy.
Democracy respects minorities. Not out votes them and then does what it pleases to them.

So we have safeguards to prevent 51% voting to abuse 49%.
Representation by constituency. Localised jurisdictions.
Second chambers, laws, seperation of powers, power sharing parliaments. All sorts of great democratic systems to prevent what you are talking about from occouring.

 

Maybe in your banana republic. In Germany the parties get seats according their strength in elections. In the relevant institutions the leading party gets 6 seats. Others get 5 or 3 seats ect.

 

Awe come on. If anyone really did say that to you are you saying you actually believed them?