Again two police officers assassinated

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by logical1, Apr 22, 2018.

  1. JakeStarkey

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    One Mind, that is a fun good straw man argument, but in the end, that is all it is.
     
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    The Establishment continues eroding individual liberty through bad law and increasing Gov't and police power.

    The increase in abuse of power by Police is a symptom of this problem. Power corrupts and more power corrupts more.

    Bad law is going to increase the number of confrontations between police and citizens and increasing police power is going to increase the intensity of these confrontations.

    It takes but a few seconds on youtube to find examples of control freak cops on a power trip.

    On the other side you have a more disgruntled populace as more people have their rights infringed upon.
     
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    Of course, you leave out the facts that over 90% of black American citizens will NOT be involved in violent crime and that in a thread discussing a white man killing police officers you raced to try and find some way to connect this crime to black culture ... really says more about YOUR culture than black Americans.
     
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    Is he a NRA member?
    See how easy your little games are.
     
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    Meanwhile MAGA hat wearing thugs go shoot children in schools.
     
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    You forgot RW lies that sheep lap up.
     
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    HEre is the difference, BLAM are all trying to assassinate cops, for asking not to be shot, while Nazis threaten minorities, and if the minorities TALK BACK, they will be slaughtered, or just rounded up. Nazis have police protection, minorities better fear the cops showing up.

    Militarized Cops At Tiny Georgia Neo-Nazi Rally Arrest Counterprotesters For Wearing Masks
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    IT is to be expected, that the Gestapo, would arrest the Jews, for flashing a Nazi salute. Obviously they were asking for it.

    Oh wait, my mistake, the JEWS were flashing a hands up don't shoot, which EVERYONE knows means, that you want to assassinate the cops.
     
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    That stat has little relevance, given the stat that 13 percent of our population, the blacks folks, are doing an outrageous percentage of the crimes and violence, given they are only 13 percent. This has relevance, when allocating your police resources. Otherwise idiots would be in charge of police departments. You allocate resources based upon the facts, or one would hope so.

    We know what group is the worst when it comes to these issues. That you seem to want to cloud that up, muddy up the waters is a common deal with your team. It is not racism to note what group is more apt to commit crime than another. If it is, we got problems with cognitive dissonance and irrationality.

    You would have no problem seeing this when it comes to pit bulls, but do have a big problem when it comes to the black culture and the kind of humans this culture creates and sustains. Accusations of racism driving all of this is just rubbish. A denial of reality.

    There is a tremendous problem with this 13 percent of our population. It cannot be denied, but the reasons for it can be denied, and that is what your team does, IMO. And you will pull the race card, every time. There is nothing like the racism that I grew up in, we are not even in that ball park. Racism will always exist until human nature evolves out of what we have been since we jumped down from the trees. Yet the improvement in this product of human nature has been reduced so much, I have to pinch myself sometimes to make sure I am not dreaming. All that a gov't can do is to make us equal under the law. And promote anti racism, and we have done both. The problem is, when one wants to talk about reality, this gins up the race card being pulled and racism being claimed when it isn't just about racism, but has other factors involved. And this problem will never be solved as long as such a single minded tactic is used, by your team. You need to identify all causes, and not deny them, nor discount them as your side tends to do, habitually.
     
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    So you know for a fact that the people who killed these police officers are Democrats and members of BLM and Antifa?
     
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    90% of all security fraud is perpetrated by white males. Do you think that is a white male problem or a bad person problem?
    Does that answer your asinine assertions that violent crime is a "black" problem?
     
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    That did work against the Jews, which were stereotyped as security fraud types, and EXTERMINATED for it.
     
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    Since most in that sector are white males, one would expect it, right? And it isn't racism aimed at whites that creates that stat. And likewise for the blacks and their own crime rates in other kinds of crime. Acknowledging both is a beginning. Then one should proceed from there. But that is not what your team does, right? And this is where the problem comes in for me. For unless we have a good and fact based understanding of all of the causes for the effects, you can never even try to solve the problem, right? I think your side is hindering fixing the problem by grabbing the low hanging fruit. Now, I seriously doubt if we will ever work to fix such a problem, even if we can agree on the causes. For ideology will raise its god awful ugly head, and it just will never happen. Whether it be left wing or right wing ideology, or even neoliberal ideology that came from the right but has been embraced by the left, the democratic party.

    Ideology and the beliefs and values it creates, or perhaps it is vice versa, or a little of both will always hinder actually trying to fix a problem that involves negating an ideological way of perceiving reality. Surely you have noticed this? Remaining true to an ideology is much more important in reality than ever trying to address and fix a problem like this. I happen to be in the group of people who believe we should at least try to fix what is destructive to a society, to a people, regardless of what group they hail from. And this will not get very far if one clouds up the big picture view, due to an ideology.
     
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    You are ANYTHING but fact based, as you are anecdotal, when convenient, and assume correlation IS causation.
     
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    But you are not trying to solve a problem. You are just trying to lay blame on an entire race of people despite the fact that the vast majority of them will never be involved in violent crime. It is lazy finger pointing. And it is destructive to society.
     
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    You are in denial, and either you cannot see it, or refuse to see it. That is my opinion anyways. I find it odd that the very thing that humans use to survive, historically, observation, has no validity at all. And yet, anyone who grew up in the times I saw, and have known more black folks than white folks, unlike yourself, that tells others of observations that 99.9 percent of people in my age group, who are white and who lived during those bad times, will attest to, are just so easily dismissed as anecdotal. Ground research has no value because it is anecdotal. And yet it has been a major tool for survival and if you ancestors had not used it, to success in determining reality, you perhaps would not exist.

    I am just glad that when we sent people out on recon, in Nam, that it was not dismissed and called anecdotal, or I might be like you and not be here today. Personal experience, personal observation has relevance, no matter what you want to believe. The problem is of course the fact that it contradicts what you want to believe. And you know that I just nailed you. But one can lie to oneself, so get busy.
     
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    And you know this just how besides wishful thinking and liberal fantasy?
     
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    Ground based research, and anecdotal evidence, SAME AS YOU!
     
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    "asinine assertions" plague the whites as much as the blacks
     
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    The same way the poster knew that I was responding to.

    Keep up
     
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    So you are making an excuse.
     
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    Are you making an excuse for it too?
     
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    Question is the same. How do you know the shooter is a Trump supporter? Fact: You don't, you just made it up.
     
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    Uh, you made the claim, not me. Remember now?
     
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    How did you miss that I was responding to YOUR idiotic post
    Oh...
     
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    Uh no, you stated he was gun nut right winger. Your statement, not mine. Not even a nice try on your part.
     

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