Air Farce One: Morales skyjacking sparks anger in S. America

[video=youtube;i3_1L4gOEw8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3_1L4gOEw8[/video]

Yes sir, this just continues to show the over arching reach of the tyranny in this world. They grounded a plane, searched it, and broke International laws. They denied the Latin American President his rights by searching the plane. This amount of totalitarian rule is slowly but surely showing it's ugly face.

This just goes to show you where folks loyality is. They don't care about other countries and will trample on them, if it protects them. This just begins to show why folks hate America so much. As more of this comes out, I'm truly not surprised.

The only thing that can be asked, what's next?

 

If this was attempted against Air Force One, it would be considered an act of war.

This is unbelievable. I wonder what tools will be willing to come around and support this.

 

These tools.
http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...mble-jets-but-i-will-abuse-world-leaders.html

 

Who is "they"? From what I read multiple sovereign countries exercised control over their own airspaces. What's the problem?

 

Well so long as it is an international conspiracy to violate international law then it's all good.

 

They = EU. The problem is searching an International plane breaks International law and the treaties that have been setup, between nations, for quite some time. What this comes down to is an act of aggression and goes against their right to be an independent nation. That's the problem.

I'd suggest watching the video, it explains their points very well.

 

So if Air Force One somehow ended up over the airspace of a non-friendly country, you'd be just keen with them scrambling fighter jets to bring it down.

Correct?

 

The Bolivian president made some provocative statements and then asked to fly over several sovereign countries. You have freedom of speech not freedom from the consequences of speech. Nobody wants that trouble maker Snowden in their country. He was whisked out of one country and is in limbo denied entry into another. So HK, Russia, and varies independent EU countries said no way. That is their sovereign choice. It is none of your business.

 

I wouldn't be "keen" but I would be enough of a big boy to know if Air Force One wandered into North Korean airspace a fighter escort would be the nicest thing that would happen. Air Force one would probably be shot down with no warning.

And were fighter jets involved or is that something you just made up to incite hysteria?

 

So how does it become none of my business but make it yours? I'm sorry, I guess I missed that part. I don't care what 'provocative statements' the President made, he still has his rights, and they are included within their International treaties, that ALL of the nations agreed to. What they did was show a sign of aggression towards this President and the Bolivian country, bottom line.

All this shows is the tyrannical out reach of the US government and the EU is there. They don't care about the rights of anyone but only to protect their own corrupt deeds. When our country stops becoming the bullies of this world, I'll keep my nose out of their business. When my tax dollars are used to bully other nations, sorry, it becomes my business.

 

Provocative statements? Disagreeing with the US is provocative?

Saying that they would CONSIDER an application for asylum?

Do you find what I say provocative? Do you believe I should be harassed?

 

We should be very careful about our relations with countries in our own hemisphere.

 

It's not my business. Multiple sovereign countries controlled their airspaces when they thought trouble was coming. None of your business or mine.

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If you are a simpleton then sure. You could look at it that way. Thankfully most world leaders are more intelligent than that.

 

Nothing but ad-hom.

Shocker.

An international arrest warrant has not been issued for Snowden. I don't care if they were "told" Snowden was on board, this would STILL be illegal. The direction clearly comes from the White House... having created yet another scandal, are refusing to talk about it... and the president is away.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/0...ker-snowden-was-aboard-bolivian-presidential/

Most transparent administration eva!!!

 

Disagreeing with Obama, et al. (maybe et aliae would be more appropriate) is an almost certain invitation to harassment, deserved or not.

 

Then it must be true.

Lol. Nice job Issa. You just lost what little credibility you had.

 

Again, searching the plane broke International law, bottom line. They only brought it down because they thought Snowden was on the plane. No trouble was thought to be coming to their nation, they simply wanted to do the will of their corrupt ally and get Snowden.

Maybe the US government would've given the EU an extra bone for getting him. Who knows. If they thought a threat was coming, they have a right to defend their airspace. However, this wasn't such a case. They "thought" Snowden was on-board, that was the point of bringing the plane down.

Then, again being stated, searching the plane broke the International treaty all sovereign countries agreed to. Bringing down a plane to avoid a threat and searching it for someone "thought" to be on-board are two different reasons. I haven't even stated how they detained the President for over 12 hours either, or that it took the Bolivian's had to talk about how they were using aggression against them and how they were violating international law were they allowed to take off again.

If I did, this discussion would be a lot different.

 

You too have lost all credibility. Obviously you are pushing an agenda with no proof which is why your tales are going to be ignored.

 

Pushing for what agenda? Agenda of showing people what's going on? I'm sure you didn't even watch the video and how even the Latin American countries are claiming the same exact thing. How this is coming from the White House and the EU is simply doing it's bidding for them.

Oh no, you're too smart to do that. Not the US government, not the one who is fighting global terrorism, holy hell, not our "good" government. It's only those Republicans who are to blame, the Democrats are here to protect us. Yeah, and I'm the one who lost credibility...

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-23201767
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/05/european-states-snowden-morales-plane-nsa

Go on...

 

You are just blindly posting unsubstantiated fantasies on the internet. How is that "showing people what's going on"?

So when a third world leftist country claims something with no proof particularly about the US then it is true. You are going to need more proof than that to convince me... or any sane person.

 

So are you saying that the Bolivian plane wasn't re-routed and made to land in a different country? Are you saying that it wasn't searched, breaking international laws? Are you saying that they weren't held for 12 hours?

It's not a claim, it's in your face. This issue is a clear indication of it. If you believe it's a fantasy, then there is nothing more there is to discuss. As it isn't my job to educate folks who reject facts.

 

Why does everyone on this forum post like they are brain damaged?

 

Only when they have to stoop the levels of others does it seem to be such a case.

 

You guys post your fantasies and have your little fake libertarian circle jerks. But the minute a thinking person actually challenges your baseless assertions you crumble like a house of cards. I wish the world was different. I wish the Bolivian president would use more care in speaking about sensitive international matters. I wish what occurred in Austria didn't occur. Neither you nor I are specialized in international law so we will just have to give it time and see what FACTS surface. The problem is if you want to jump into the big boy arena and go off script you better make sure you know what you are doing. Seeing the behavior of China and Russia should tell anyone with half a brain this Snowden guy is toxic and brings problems everywhere he goes. If you don't want that kind of trouble then choose your words carefully.