Al Jazeera reporter killed during Israeli raid in West Bank

Did the part about "it doesn't matter" go dear in headlights again ?

 

Your claim is that they have criminal proof. The fact that you said "it doesn't matter" is irrelevant.

 

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I'm sure that you've heard the expression: "Hate the sin, not the sinner."
I think that it's a waste of time and energy to hate someone who doesn't know that I even exist. It seems far productive to do what you can to thwart the evil that they do than simmering in hatred.

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Firstly, I always post your entire comment and then lift and respond to what I think is the core thought.
I don't know that much about the July 7 London bombing and have not come to any core conclusion concerning 9/11.
I think that Israel had the most to gain from the furor that 9/11 caused in America and, yes, I do think that Mossad was somehow involved in 9/11 to some degree(1).
You never responded to the fact that Building # 7 simply imploded without being touched by an airliner or that the hole in the Pentagon was far too small to have been made by an airliner. Those are just two facts that are not explained by the official narrative and make the official narrative unconvincing.

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Since I'm not a regular reader of either publication in recent times, I honestly couldn't say for sure.

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I would be more convinced that the "bias pendulum" were swinging the other way if any major American publication were to print an honest and objective piece on the Israeli imposed misery in Gaza or you were able to find anything critical of Israel in any of the major US publications.
Go ahead, give it a try and see if this "bias pendulum" has really rendered US MSM anti Israel.

Thanks,






(1) “Five Israelis were seen filming as jet liners ploughed into the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001 …”

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news...ed-into-the-twin-towers-on-september-11-2001/

EXCERPT
“THERE was ruin and terror in Manhattan, but, over the Hudson River in New Jersey, a handful of men were dancing. As the World Trade Centre burned and crumpled, the five men celebrated and filmed the worst atrocity ever committed on American soil as it played out before their eyes.

Who do you think they were? Palestinians? Saudis? Iraqis, even? Al-Qaeda, surely? Wrong on all counts. They were Israelis - and at least two of them were Israeli intelligence agents, working for Mossad, the equivalent of MI6 or the CIA.” CONTINUED[/QUOTE]

 

You have it backwards again .. Criminal proof in this instance - dose not change the fact that your desperate claim - "Israel does not target journalists" is preposterous nonsense. Now go and learn

 

Nothing changes what the OHCHR said. And THEY did the research.
And you are conceding to that, as well as what CNN came up with.
You have not put up any link debunking those claims.

 

Point stands, you still are conceding that you made up that the missiles are stored in living rooms / that Israel send it's kids across the border to be a human shield for Israel / That the IDF build their HQ in the middle of a massive city, being a legit target, knowing their opponents can't aim very well.

And it starts to be obvious you flat out made up they store missiles in living rooms.
It is, because you demand me to debunk a claim that you apparently can't prove.
It doesn't work like that. You need to prove your own claims or else you just lied.
That's how it works.

 

Yes, living rooms, malls, garages, hospital basements, schools ... that's where you store tens of thousands of missiles.
Cos if you have a weapons depot it will get hit by the IDF. That's the rationale.
No Israeli kids are sent over the border into Gaza - they would be murdered or kidnapped, or both.
Gaza doesn't target anything other than big fat easy civilian targets.

If you have any evidence otherwise, please show us.

 

So far no source.

Israel used to, and they sill send them into East Jerusalem, Golan and the West Bank.
They are Israel's human shield.

 

Yes, and THEY are part of the UN which is above them. Simple! Anyway, the OHCHR did not say that Israel is CRIMINALLY GUILTY.

 

You have not SHOWN criminal proof! Simple!

I did not say that Israel does not target journalists. You may be getting me confused with @Poohbear.

 

Where is your source for Israel sending her children into the arms of Islamists.

 

So it takes time and energy to hate the sinner, but NOT the sin?

Building 7 was indeed highly suspicious, but I did not address it because it was totally irrelevant to the fact that the author of the article which you linked to just STATES AS FACT that Mossad is responsible for basically all of the terrorist attacks in history. So I cannot take the article seriously, but maybe you can. In case you forgot which article it is, it's this one: http://www.whale.to/c/israeli_snipers.html

You may not be able to read alot of these which are behind a paywall, but you will still be able to read the headlines before they become hidden,
which should be sufficient, and if you miss them, simply refresh the page:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/22/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-conflict.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/world/middleeast/palestinian-village-israel.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/23/world/middleeast/israel-apatheid-un.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/07/...lem-israeli-palestinian-conflict-protest.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/...years-of-israeli-occupation-and-the-next.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...alestinians-occupation-full-rights-west-bank/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-has-lasted-50-years-a-new-book-explains-why/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/22/israel-palestinian-masafer-yatta-biden/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...aza-war-zionism-apartheid-injustice-pressure/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/04/27/israel-report-apartheid/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ps-says-israel-is-committing-crime-apartheid/

 

It's not the UN itself who said something.

It says
We at the UN Human Rights Office have concluded our independent monitoring into the incident. All information we have gathered – including official information from the Israeli military and the Palestinian Attorney-General – is consistent with the finding that the shots that killed Abu Akleh and injured her colleague Ali Sammoudi came from Israeli Security Forces and not from indiscriminate firing by armed Palestinians, as initially claimed by Israeli authorities. We have found no information suggesting that there was activity by armed Palestinians in the immediate vicinity of the journalists.

And you've conceded to this, by refusing to respond to it, and editing it out when you reply.
simple


And their findings are the same with 5 other independent investigations.
And you've conceded to this to, by not responding to it.

 

where did I say this?

My previous point stand, and you're conceding to it by ignoring it.

 

Yes you have .. just forget your positions from one post to the next.. .. and what part of "criminal proof is irrelevant" went deer in headlights the first 4 times.

 

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I simply feel that we have such a short time on on this earth that spending time hating someone or something is an unproductive and self destructive waste of time. I'd rather devote the same energy writing letters and protesting.

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It's been proven since the Lavon Affair that the Israelis will stop at nothing to get the US to make the region safe for Israel's regional hegemony. It's also been proven that the Israelis will not show the slightest hesitancy in killing Americans if it serves to serve their objective (i.e. regional hegemony)
There's a reason that Mossad's motto is: "By way of deception thou shalt do war".
If you had read "By Way of Deception: The Making Of A Mossad Officer" by Victor Ostrovsky (1), the claims made in the article I cited would not seem so far fetched.

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While the NY Times and Washington Post have had to be a little more candid about Israel's crimes due to the internet, they still omit a lot. (2)

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(1) "By Way of Deception: The Making of a Mossad officer"
https://www.amazon.com/Way-Deception-Making-Mossad-officer/dp/0971759502


(2) "A week has passed—and still not a single word in the ‘NYTimes’ about Amnesty International’s landmark report that found Israel practices ‘apartheid’"

https://mronline.org/2022/02/11/a-w...report-that-found-israel-practices-apartheid/
So when it comes to New York Times bias, I’m not naive. But I admit to being astonished, almost speechless, at the fact that more than a week has passed since Amnesty International released its landmark report charging that Israel was characterized by “apartheid”—and that so far, America’s newspaper of record has not printed a single word. The omission is especially stunning because Timesjournalists often cite Amnesty reports about human rights violations elsewhere in the world. Just last month, for instance the paper mentioned Amnesty in 7 different articles.

 

Why should Israel's behavior be held to a level of scrutiny that other nations are not, AND Israel is a nation with more security issues than any other country.

 

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First, I don't think that Israel is any more heavily scrutinized than any other country but if it is it is because Israel maintains the longest and most brutal and ruthless, foreign funded ethnic cleaning program in modern history.

On one hand, Israel's Holocaust Industry extorts $ Billions from Germany, other countries and industries around the world for "reparations" and at the same time it treats Palestine's native residents at least as cruelly as Germany's National Socialists treated Europe's Jews.

So much for "Never forget".

Another reason Israel may receive and deserve more scrutiny is that it extorts $ Trillions in US aid (1) at the same time it has repeatedly betrayed the US and maintains the same ruthless ethnic cleansing program.

By the way, according to US Law (The Symington - Glenn Amendment) (2), Israel is prohibited from receiving ANY US aid but US Law is meaningless against the power of America's infestation of Israeli lobbies.

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Iran and North Korea are just two other countries I can immediately think of that have similar "security issues" to Israel.

I don't know what recently arrived Israelis expected when they show up and steal 1/2 of Palestine, slaughter thousands of native residents, engage in more land theft and ethnic cleansing and then complain about their "security issues".

It's like a wealthy KKK member who buys an apartment building in an all Black neighborhood, evicts 1/2 of the tenants and then complains because the remaining Black neighbors aren't nice to him. He might have "security issues" too.



(1) "The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion"
https://www.wrmea.org/003-june/the-...israeli-palestinian-conflict-$3-trillion.html

By Thomas R. Stauffer

EXCERPT "Similarly, aid to Israel—and thus the regional total—also is understated, since much is outside of the foreign aid appropriation process or implicit in other programs. Support for Israel comes to $1.8 trillion, including special trade advantages, preferential contracts, or aid buried in other accounts. In addition to the financial outlay, U.S. aid to Israel costs some 275,000 American jobs each year."CONTINUED


(2) "Lawsuit Claims Aid to Nuclear Israel Illegal Under Symington Glenn Amendments"
https://www.corporatecrimereporter....ael-illegal-under-symington-glenn-amendments/

EXCERPT "A lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington, D.C. claims that United States aid to Israel is illegal under a law passed in the 1970s that prohibits aid to nuclear powers that don’t sign the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty (NPT).

Such aid violates longstanding bans on foreign aid to non-signatories to the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT) with nuclear weapons programs, the lawsuit alleges."CONTINUED

 

Pfff
Israel is getting away with killing this reporter without any international consequences
Israel is getting away with colonizing an other country, defying the Geneva Conventions and the UN, without any consequences
Israel is getting away with ethnic cleansing civilians, defying the Geneva Conventions and the UNSC about it, without any consequences

Russia is facing consequences for occupying and annexing parts of Ukraine, which is what Israel has done to the WB and East-Jerusalem and Golan.
Sudan got split into 2 countries, while the UN marched through that country when there was a war over there.
Serbia got bombed to bits when they went across their borders to remove citizens, very much like Israel has done.

Israel is even attacking Syria whenever, without facing any consequences.


If any... Israel should have been sanctioned to the poor house like we did to Russia and hold that country to the same level of scrutiny.
It's currently all a joke and Israel just goes on... murdering journalists who are recording the war crimes Israel commits. True story.

 

Humor -- You are the source Pooh .. Your the one claiming that Israel is using "Human Sheilds" -- as your definition includes having dinner with one's family.

Why Pooh .. why do those evil Israeli's use their children as human sheilds

Exactly -- the claim
"Why should Israel's behavior be held to a level of scrutiny that other nations are not, AND Israel is a nation with more security issues than any other country" - is preposterous nonsense .. the reverse is true.

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Can you tell me at what post I said Israel uses human shields? I have neither recollection or reason to say that - the IDF doesn't fight like that.

 

So what country is Israel colonizing? You can say southern Syria (aka Golan) but despite the historic connection of Israel to the Golan, this area was offered back to Syria if that cuontry would end its war with Israel and sign a peace treaty.
Israel held Sinai but gave it back for a peace treaty.
Israel held part of Gaza, but left without a peace treaty - and the rockets just moved closer to home.

 

You didn't say "Israel" .. what you did was define "human shield" .. and by your definition - sitting down for dinner with family - Israel uses its children as human sheilds.... 1 + 1 = 2

 

Yeah, we do that in Australia. We are having roast for lunch - my family, one kangaroo, one dog and three cats.
Human shields, kangaroo shields......

 

Well that's strange, because earlier you said: