Alabama’s Draconian Abortion Ban Has Women On Twitter Ready To Fight

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  1. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    Uh, WHY would they ban abortion ????

    Isn't it because they consider it murder? Yes, that's why they say they're against it...…

    Is murder, or hiring someone to murder for you, not a felony?


    I'm not demanding anything ! WTF are you talking about?

    ..., you're simply are trying to avoid the obvious because you can't seem to answer the basic question about abortion:

    WHY would they ban abortion ????

    Are you saying you have no idea why you want abortion banned??


    If a woman gets an illegal abortion what is she charged with???




    Yup, it usually takes a lib to make sense of anything but you have me confused as to why, if abortion is illegal why no one would be charged with a crime for having one....what a effing waste of taxpayer's money!!!



    So you can't address my post and can't answer questions about your statements....why not?


    You can't answer the most basic questions? That makes it look like you have no argument at all.

    """""""""""WHY would they ban abortion ????

    Isn't it because they consider it murder? Yes, that's why they say they're against it...…

    Is murder, or hiring someone to murder for you, not a felony?""""""""""""







    You make it look like banning abortion is just for fun! Something to do when somebody is bored with their own life!
     
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    Ya, I mentioned it in post 2495:

    Maybe you should explain what YOU think "mens rea" means?

    And why it should be applied to people hiring others to commit a crime....


    Why would I not understand "Doing something illegal doing IS breaking the law!"...when you were the one denying it???
     
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    Legally its only murder if the law says it it is

    And in the case of illegal abortions Alabama didnt
     
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    Then WHAT is it?

    WHY are they making abortion illegal?

    For the fun of it??
     
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    You are free to call it anything you want

    But the bottom line is that women will not be charged
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Then WHAT is it?

    WHY are they making abortion illegal?

    For the fun of it??



    So you're against abortion but don't know why? Uh, OK.

    Why can't you answer my questions because they can't be brushed aside by Anti-Choicers. That seems to say, "we have no reason to make abortion illegal but we'll make it illegal and not do anything about those who break the law"

    Now, if that doesn't look stupid and meaningless to you, explain why it doesn't.


    The "bottom line" is NOT "they won't charge women"....the bottom line is they need a REASON to take away women's rights.
     
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    Are you telling me you don't know how preferential balloting works? That people don't take into account how their preference impacts who wins, the ultimate goal of most voters?
    No, I meant what I said. My wife and I were in Australia recently and spent a lot of time talking to some Australian political operatives about the differences in politics between Australia, Canada, and the United States--all federalized with different voting and/or political systems. I think the most interesting contrast is between Canada and Australia where Canada has retained FPTP and Australia adopted preferential voting, but both have British parliamentary systems.
     
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    To trigger a Supreme Court challenge of Roe v Wade.
     
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    If Roe v Wade is overturned, there will be no such right.
     
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    Good grief. Outlawing virtually all abortions is so offensive to anyone who supports women's rights that not charging women with murder who has an abortion is almost irrelevant. I think it's just one more intellectually dishonest pro-lifer tact.
     
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    Relevance?
     
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    All the more reason why the two party preferred percentage doesn't reflect the results.
     
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    It is an argument against the idea that if abortion was banned, women would be forced to give birth. I'm glad that you don't agree.
     
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    You are getting sillier and sillier

    The purpose of the Alabama abortion law is to protect innocent human life
     
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    When about half the babies killed are female I question your support for womns rights
     
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    Of course it does. People vote strategically no matter what system is in place. The preferred percentage is the best measure of who they want in power given who can actually form government.
     
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    The real purpose of the anti-abortion business is organizing folks into the pews. If pro-life becomes unpopular with everyday religious types, churches will drop their crusade like a rock. Doan think so? Look back no further than Jim Crow and anti-miscegenation laws. Are churches crusading against interracial marriage these days? Nope.
     
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    Less sex is the alternative?
     
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    So you’re scared of the religion boggeyman?

    Its true that mist Christians are against abortion

    But so many others who are secular unbelievers
     
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    I was talking about women's rights, not the supposed rights of fetuses.

    P.S. We're not talking about killing babies.
     
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    Nope. Had a methodist minister grandfather (mother side), church deacon grandfather (father side), church librarian mother, etc. I saw firsthand the glorious workings of the church. Gave up the Imaginary Friend when I was nine.
    For now, just like it was true most churchy types opposed interracial marriage.
    Science is killing organized religion. Dems da breaks.

    P.S. Enjoy your life 'cause it's all you git.
     
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    Of course this happens naturally - like it or not human attraction is a natural process. When you drill down to the molecular level - its all about attraction and repulsion. As a chemist - I can explain how this works if you like.

    Regardless - who said anything about agreeing to have a child - why are you wandering down some silly rabbit hole - again. People are attracted to each other - they have sex and this initiates the the process by which humans are created. Without this attraction humans would not be created.

    There are hundreds of steps along the way - each of which is a natural process. The creation of sperm and egg are natural processes. The attraction of the sperm to the egg is a natural process. The implantation of the embryo is a natural process.

    Each step along the way is required - and must be completed successfully - in order for a child to be created.

    You have wandered so far out in left field that you don't even know what you are arguing anymore. Your claim that one step in this process is "natural" while the others are not is simply nonsense.

    Sex is a natural process - based on attraction between two entities. We see this in nature do we not ?

    You then want to go on to claim that the coupling between the egg and sperm is "natural" while the other process that happen prior to this coupling are not. This is a nonsense argument.

    There is a reason why the Metabolic Perspective is one of the main scientific perspectives with respect to "when human life begins". All the steps along the way involve entities that are both "human" and "living".

    Each and every step along the way involves molecular attraction which is a natural process.
     
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    Well if abortion was banned, then NO SEX would seem wise if pregnancy is not the intention.
     
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    How is that? And what does this have to do with secular unbelievers who oppose abortion?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Then WHAT is it?

    WHY are they making abortion illegal?



    WHY do they want to trigger a Supreme Court challenge of RvW ??
     
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