Alabama’s Draconian Abortion Ban Has Women On Twitter Ready To Fight

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    No one is preaching abstence to liberals in the public schools or in the ghetto
     
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    I never said that.

    You are just trying to squirm away from the fact you couldn't answer the question:

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    So? Why did you need to point that out when the discussion was about how preaching abstinence doesn't work?
     
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    Because abstence does work

    Its the best way to prevent pregnancy and sex disease
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    I never said that.

    You are just trying to squirm away from the fact you couldn't answer the question:

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    So? Why did you need to point that out when the discussion was about how preaching abstinence doesn't work?



    It's " ABSTINENCE" not "abstence"...learn the words to have the discussion.


    Abstinence does work, obviously, BUT PREACHING abstinence doesn't.



    I have the entire history of the world to prove that PREACHING abstinence does not work.

    Even those who swear to god that they will be celibate can't keep it in their pants...
     
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    I repeat, no one is preaching anstinence to minorities in the public schools who contribute most to the teen pregnany epidemic
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    I never said that.

    You are just trying to squirm away from the fact you couldn't answer the question:

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    So? Why did you need to point that out when the discussion was about how preaching abstinence doesn't work?





    It's " ABSTINENCE" not "abstence"...learn the words to have the discussion.


    Abstinence does work, obviously, BUT PREACHING abstinence doesn't.



    I have the entire history of the world to prove that PREACHING abstinence does not work.

    Even those who swear to god that they will be celibate can't keep it in their pants...





    Of course you repeat it ...you repeat everything even when shown to be wrong.

    The discussion was NOT about whether abstinence NOTE SPELLING!) was being preached or not.

    There is NO "teen pregnancy epidemic"....teen pregnancy has gotten lower in the last several years..


    Have you read the post of mine you quoted? It doesn't seem like it because you keep repeating the same lines.
     
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    With the notable exception that an abortion cannot be prohibited if there is any threat to the life and/or health of the pregnant women post viability.

    Worth noting that giving birth is ALWAYS a risk to the health and/or life of the woman concerned. If the fetus has a congenital defect and is unlikely to be able to live a normal healthy life the risk to her life and/or health outweighs that of the suboptimal fetus's "viability".

    This is usually a medical decision that is made with the advice of close family and friends. There are some instances where the woman opts to take those risks with the understanding that there will only be palliative care for the infant with a DNR in place.
     
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    Playing the race card is always pointless and only goes to expose the motivation behind it.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    So? Why did you need to point that out when the discussion was about how preaching abstinence doesn't work?



    What has race got to do with it? NOTHING....unless one is a racist.

    The entire world , ALL races , haven't been able to abstain too well...….

    Are you saying white people and Asian people can abstain more than others?

    Wouldn't that be a silly statement...
     
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    You want to blame conservatives for a problem in the black community of democrats
     
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    Red states where ABSTINENCE ONLY education replaced sex ed resulted in INCREASED numbers of unwanted pregnancies and abortions so it DEFINITELY does NOT work if the goal is to lower abortion rates because it does the exact opposite.
     
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    Obviously so

    How do you explain higher teen pregnancy amomg blacks?
     
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    https://www.bing.com/search?q=teen+...-26&sk=&cvid=2E94DBBE56B64F22B7792212868A95F8


    Teenage pregnancy rates affected by location, race. A study by the National Center for Health Statistics shows that, in the United States, Hispanic teenagers (age 15-19) have the highest pregnancy rates at 81.8, while White non-Hispanic teenage girls have the least at 27.2, with Black non-Hispanic girls in the middle at 64.2 per 1,000 women in 2007.
     
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    IF that's true then it can be explained by more poverty among blacks.

    But I have the entire history of the world to prove that PEOPLE, all PEOPLE, do NOT abstain from sex, and certainly don't because someone told them ot abstain........see, the history of the world includes ALL races....


    Your pushing the race card is not addressing what we were discussing which is PREACHING abstinence does not work.


    Please don't let your inability to spell abstinence force you to segue away from the point...
     
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    Oh, the race card to divert from the issue being discussed....not clever at all....but does prove my point :)
     
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    The zygote never becomes a human. It splits into two totipotent clones of itself. These clones then go on to create the blastocyst - a hollow sac of cells in which the embryoblast will form. These totipotent cells then start spitting out differentiated and specialized cells which will form the structure of the human being created. These cells will never be part of that structure - any one of which by the way has the capability to create a human.

    There are many things that can happen along the way that will end up with a human not being created. The chances that the creation of a zygote leads to the creation of a human are actually quite low. Less than 50% if memory serves.

    You are equating the builder of a human with a human. This is like equating the builder of a brick building with a brick building. The builder/creator of that building never becomes the building. Your analogy would hold once for the embryoblast but not the cells that come before. Prior to the creation of the embryoblast - not a single cell in the structure of a human exists.
     
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    Lack of cash and education with respect to contraception.
     
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    So, if you want to have a war, you should pay for the military? If you become impotent because your prostate gives you problems, you shouldn't ask women to pay for fixing your problem? If you want a road to your church, should you have to pay for it?

    Where does the moralism stop?
     
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    Which brings us back to the fact that more black people in Mississippi translates to more teen pregnancy in that state
     
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    Methinks pro-lifers who share these "popular" beliefs have reached an intellectual dead end.
     
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    The bade issue is abortion

    The derivatives of that issue preaching abstinence in red states for you

    and the high percentage of high pregnancy minority teens in the red states for me
     
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    I was a lifeguard years ago. Since people don't need to go to the beach...
     
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    And why do you think this is the case?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    IF that's true then it can be explained by more poverty among blacks.

    But I have the entire history of the world to prove that PEOPLE, all PEOPLE, do NOT abstain from sex, and certainly don't because someone told them to abstain........see, the history of the world includes ALL races....


    Your pushing the race card is not addressing what we were discussing which is PREACHING abstinence does not work.


    Please don't let your inability to spell abstinence force you to segue away from the point...


    :)


    You're repeating yourself ….and making it obvious it's about race and NOT about what we were discussing, abstinence ( NOTE SPELLING)
     
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    Racist conservatives, yes.
     
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