Alabama’s Draconian Abortion Ban Has Women On Twitter Ready To Fight

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  1. FoxHastings

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    notme said:
    And what if daddy prevents his 13 year old daughter to do that? And who pays for that? You also not aware that such a thing must be done in a certain amount of time, and that's not how things work when you're traumatized by rape?




    YOU didn't answer the questions.....and yes, adult women are traumatized by rape.
     
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    NO, you don't have to go "deeper and deeper into narrow scenarios" ...you can just leave women's rights alone!!!
     
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    Onus is entirely on YOU to prove that it was NOT!

    There were NO LAWS prior to the inception of the Constitution banning abortion and since it was widely practiced therefore that means that it was LEGAL!

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10297561

    Needless to say you won't be able to prove your bovine excrement but that is just to be expected with all of your bogus allegations.
     
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    And what they are limited by is the rights of the individual, which are only limited by the rights of another individual. Which means, women aren’t the property of society to turn into breeding cattle—they are sovereign over their own lives.
     
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    And she can still ensure she does not get pregnant and then have to kill the baby.
     
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    Biologically it is a baby in the womb also referred to as a fetus the two words are not mutually exclusive.
     
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    Sure but it would be your money not mine.
     
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    What don't you understand the eggs, which are produced while she is still a baby in the womb, are not "part" of the mother. It is a living human being in the womb even producing the eggs needed to propagate while in the womb.
     
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    I quoted one along with the government and medical websites. Want another?

    Bonding With Baby Before Birth
    Making a connection with your unborn child can strengthen the bond you share, make you feel closer, and enrich you and your baby's lives.
    https://www.webmd.com/baby/features/bonding-with-baby-before-birth
     
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    The placenta and umbillcal cord are two separate things. The entire purpose of the planfena is ti keep the baby separate from the mother. The fact remains the baby is not part of the mother is a separate human being even though your side has now tried to live the goal post to "attached to" as if that proves whatever point you're trying to make.
     
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    Pitiful attempt to divert I see.
     
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    Well, when you learn that words are cognitive tools and refer to specific entities and their attributes and characteristics, then you’ll realize, when anyone refers to the fetus in the womb as a baby, what they are seeing in their mind is a baby, cooing and ooing,
    “Weeing and doing”, laughing and crying, and not a developing fetus swishing around in an amniotic sac.

    Cognitively, they are not interchangeable; lyrically and poetically...? hell, I’ll acknowledge some interchangeability.
     
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    This actual a very good point, and raises a good question, is this physiological independence from the mother. I conclude not—because everything about that fetus is dependent upon its mother’s physiology, from the nutrients in her blood, to the very placenta that prevents the mother’s immune system from harming the fetus,and the fetus’s immune system harming the mother.
     
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    Clearly sir, you have never bothered to read the Bill of Rights. You have never bothered to read and contemplate the meaning of the Ninth Amendment.

    For you: "The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

    In other words, an exhaustive listing, a complete listing of the rights of man, including women, is impossible. The unenumerated rights of man far exceed the enumerated rights.

    The right of a woman to control her own body is certainly an unenumerated right.

    As to powers, the federal government has no lawful authority to tell a woman how she must live her life. No power at all.
     
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    No, you dont understand what the burden of proof is. If it says unenumerated, that means it has to be established by you, and you dont do that by stomping YOUR FEET IN ALL CAPS. You do it by finding authority in old statutes and pre convention writings.

    Savvy?
     
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    The woman was raped

    Thats very bad

    But not as bad as killing an innocent human being
     
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    I know far more about not only the Bill of Rights but also the debates and discussions leading to its drafting, than anyone on the board.

    Unenumerated does not mean "anything you can possibly think of, including (especially) late term abortion, free education, free health care, and protesting naked."
     
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    So you are selective as to which parts of the BOR you embrace and which you reject. That makes you rather typical. You are a "cafeteria constitutionalist", picking what you like and leaving the rest.

    Got it!
     
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    Are you a Christian?

    Are you advocating a theocracy?
     
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    The fetus compromises the woman's immune system very early on, I think almost from conception.....

    IF the fetus was totally independent from the woman it's in:

    A. Why would it be there?

    B. How does it cause all the damage it does to a woman's body?
     
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    "The HEAD and NECK cord are two separate things. The entire purpose of the NECK is to keep the HEAD separate from the BODY. The fact remains the HEAD is not part of the BODY is a separate human being even though your side has now tried to MOVE the goal post to "attached to" as if that proves whatever point you're trying to make."

    Fixed your blather so that perhaps you might be able to understand your egregious FALLACY!

    Without the BODY the HEAD will DIE!

    That is WHY they are ATTACHED to one another.

    Without the ATTACHMENT between the FETUS and the WOMAN the FETUS will DIE!

    This is NOT rocket science!
     
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    I agree that what you posted was indeed pitiful attempt on your part.
     
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    I already PROVED my position with a CREDIBLE SOURCE that you are UNABLE to refute.

    Hissyfit footstomping on your part is all that you have "contributed" to date.

    I have no expectation that will change in the future.
     
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    BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    On the internet you can PRETEND to be ANYTHING you want to be!

    Too bad the vacuous content of your posts does not substantiate your bogus claims in this regard.

    :roflol:
     
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    The placenta actually comes from cells sloughed off the embryo which then form the separate organ called the placenta which then lays next to the walls of the uterus.

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    Amazing how nature works isn't it.
     

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