Alec Baldwin kills one,inures another with Prop Gun on set.

The focus then should be on the owners of the companies that were producing Rust.

Allen Cheney, a Thomasville native who operates Thomasville Pictures, is an executive producer of the film, while his business partner Ryan Smith is a producer, according to a report by the LA Times.

The production companies credited on “Rust” include Thomasville Pictures, led by Ryan Smith and Allen Cheney, as well as Short Porch Pictures, run by Nathan Klingher and Ryan Winterstern, among others.

 

He is actually one of six producers on the film. I'm not arguing that he isn't responsible in that role, I don't know if he is or isn't, just saying that there are 5 others...

 

Ya whomever set the standards for safety on this film is/should be culpable for creating an unsafe working environment. And if that's on the producer's plate...and he's a producer (yes 1 of 6) then he shares the blame.

 

If he hired someone to enforce firearm safety rules, then the court will probably agree he did his part. What's the point of hiring people if you have take care of every detail yourself anyway. But who knows. We'll see that happens.

 

From what I read, the production company sets the safety rules. And then it's up to the directors to enforce them? I could be wrong.

 

The rules were there, and people were hired to enforce them, but they failed to enforce them. In the past some directors have been charged with negligence, like one case when an actress was killed by a train when they didn't bother checking the train schedule and just assumed there won't be any trains coming. The court ruled that the director was responsible for checking the schedule.

 

The rules seemed to be sub par. I mean you could technically say "well we only needed 1 person to do the gun check because it's either safe or it isn't" but redundancy is a thing to increase safety to insure stuff like this never happens.

This set didn't have the standard redundancy check and this was the result.

 

I doubt anyone hires multiple people to check the same gun. What if you hire 2 and it still happens? Hire 3? 4?

 

From what I've heard, the more standard procedure is to have 4 people clear the gun before use. And if there is ever a situation where it needs to be pointed at someone (yes even someone behind the camera) then they need to display to everyone that it's going to be pointed at that it is a cold gun. You know? So they all feel safe when the gun is pointed in their direction?

That's what I've gathered anyways. Each set is different though and the rules for this set seem to be sub par.

 

The Sheriff investigating this still calls it a criminal investigation.

 

They should take their time and them make the call (charge him, or don't charge). Brandon Lee death was also investigated for a long time.

 

From what I have read it looks like the asst director was supposed to be a redundant check and be the one to say cold or hot gun on the set. Cold gun for dummies and hot for blanks. He admits he failed to check every round... But still the armorer loaded it. According to the armorer she was trying to get more safety training in place but the production company balked at that. So you know, standard operating procedure, finger pointing everywhere.

 

I would not say the court found, the director pled guilty.
ABC has some actual film footage of the event.

 

It is dragging out as you write here.

 

'Rust' armorer's attorney suggests sabotage may have led to fatal on-set shooting

"An attorney for the armorer on the movie set where actor Alec Baldwin fatally shot a cinematographer said Wednesday that he believes someone might have been trying to sabotage the film by putting a live round in a box of dummy ammunition. The attorney did not provide evidence to support his theory, but floated a possible motive on NBC’s “TODAY” show.‌"

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...W+g69Gjo3C+e8cR1Yq/q6ZOZ+vPWDRA+/oVjwcBwBAAA=


That adds some intrigue .........

 

They will blame Trump, with the help of Putin's KGB, for sneaking the live round onto the set and into the gun.

Mark my words.

 

It adds confusion by adding conspiracy which will probably be impossible to prove.

 

Seems like the armorer knows she holds most responsibility for the shooting. Whoever loaded the gun ( the armorer?) should have checked each bullet while loading.

 

Had this happened to Trump the story would not be like that at all. The media would report Trump hates Baldwin and wanted the woman dead.
The media is full of misleading comments.

 

Baldwin as a producer has a senior responsibility that the media is now trying to pass the buck to others. The sheriff says he is investigating a crime.

 

That depends on what the norm is on Hollywood sets. You should always check to make sure a gun isn't loaded. But if it's the norm to trust an assistant, then that is a systemic problem, and it reduces Baldwin's responsibility. Blame is to be judged differently (but not totally eliminated) when someone makes the same mistakes everyone else is in a broken system, than someone who breaks the rules in a good system.

I know my earlier post put more blame on him, but I instinctively felt bad, so I'm amending my position.

 

The question is what does a reasonably prudent person do in the same set of circumstances. That's the law, not Hoosier's misstatement.

 

Any reasonably prudent person would never point a real gun at anyone - loaded or not - unless their intention was to destroy what they point it at.

Sheriff says the gun fired a real bullet - therefore, it was a real gun.

The mother is dead because of reckless carelessness on the part of more than one person.

 

That's your opinion. There will be expert opinions offered in a civil case.

 

Did I predict it, or what??????

Snip:
‘Fresh Prince’ Actress Janet Hubert Wonders: Did ‘Trumpers’ Give Alec Baldwin the Loaded Gun Because of SNL?

https://www.breitbart.com/entertain...e-alec-baldwin-the-loaded-gun-because-of-snl/