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Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by God & Country, Nov 6, 2020.

  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    More fake fringe-right Nazi comparisons from the tinfoil crowd. Who knew? Glad you think you can power your vapid nonsense with a few million people, including my grandfather, spinning in their graves.
     
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    I don't care what your grandfather does in his grave, as far as I am concerned he can do whatever he likes in the privacy of his grave, I would never want to cancel him for whatever he chooses to do.

    That being said, that cancel tactic is the one thing in common between Fascism, Stalinism and McCarthyism is absolutely indisputable.... Now of course the liberal brownshirts are joining this elite club. Congratulations, well done.
     
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  3. Lil Mike

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    Dumb? Well she is AOC. But the dumb part is that she's doing it when it's not clear that Democrats are going to dominate the government like they thought. If they don't get the Senate, the Biden Administration will just be trench warfare with no major accomplishments. Meanwhile, I assume that her list will be for Antifa to target innocents. I'm sure that will bring us all together.
     
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  5. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yes it was, all those mortgages without a down payment cause major issues when the economy crashed - and as the link showed, Bush signed that into law

    and yes, I agree, some dems backed Bush on this bill, it was a bipartisan bill
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who wrote the law?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    who signed it into law... Bush

    but yes, it was a bipartisan bill in congress
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So it wasn't bushes fault, thank you.
     
  9. God & Country

    God & Country Well-Known Member

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    Trump has never threatened anyone. AOC's tweet suggests some sort of twisted revenge.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bush signed it into law, but yeah, let's blame it all on democrats
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    tracking peoples tweets and such in a db in case they delete them is not revenge, it just means people can't lie in the future and say they did not say that

    I think we should have such a db for all politicians, I like the one we have on Trump

    http://www.trumptwitterarchive.com/archive
     
  12. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Didn't say that but when the problem was recognized they blatently ignored it. Both sides were at fault for it happening but there was no intervention to lesson the impact because of Congress's refusal to institute oversight on the lenders as they were being warned to do. Again there opposition to the acknowledgement of the crises is well documented with their own words which you can easily look up.
     
  13. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bush signed it in to law.... without that, it would not be law

    by the time it was noticed, the economic crash was already happening, nothing could be done....
     
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    You think Joe's really gonna be running things?? Now that's funny.
     
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    God & Country Well-Known Member

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    We don't need data bases have the internet where everything is permanent. I don't think this is what AOC was talking about.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No there is a timeline of it worsening and bush officially presenting it to congress for debate where it was denied.

    Essentially both sides thought it was great when the first indication of the bubble was noticed. It was pretty much ignored until 2003 when bush officially asked congress to investigate it. Barney Frank who ran the housing commission and supported by Maxine waters and the black caucus categorically denied there was a problem and even accused bush of being racist for wanting to regulate it. Subsequent warnings were given every year to congress and they all were dismissed by the democrats.

    Had they acted we could have had about five years to try and mitigate the recession but the left so hated bush by that point because of the war that they wouldn't work with him for anything, even with the proof of a failing economy right in front of them.

    Its things like this why we say democrats would rather watch the Nation burn then to compromise on legislation.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    And Obama kept trying to place blame on Bush for Obama's failures. :shrugs: Everything the right has done, the left has done also. So just can it with the propaganda.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    like what?
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    You're a bright boy. Figure it out. Just open your eyes and mind and listen to both sides instead of just one.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I posted an example when I made the claim, guess you just want to make the claim with nothing to back it up
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Sorry FreshAir, I know the game. I post an example and you focus on that and the point made will be lost in minutia while that example is being argued to death. It's a tactic designed to avoid what a person knows to be true so wants to deflect away from it asap so people will forget about it. And I'm not playing it. Fact: Obama blamed Bush for most of his 8 years. Fact: Trump blamed Obama for much of his term. And more than likely Biden/Harris will do the same exact thing with Trump. It's how the game is played now a days. You can agree or disagree. But you won't be fooling anyone.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    for things Bush did, his two 10+ year wars and the crash of the economy.... what else?

    the right tried to blame Obama for Iraq, that was all Bush
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Still trying to point to examples in order to loose sight of the statement you know to be true? I'll note that you have yet to comment on it directly.
     
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    What damage would that be exactly? Let's see, since Trump has been POTUS, the following things have happened to me:

    1- My taxes have gone down.
    2- I've spent probably almost half of his term in this or that hospital. But he's not responsible for that, nor does he get any credit for the fact that I'm not dead, despite the fact that I should be.
    3- The price of oil/gas has gone down a LOT.
    4- Minimum wage laws (which for the most part he deserves neither credit nor blame for) have resulted in many businesses going out of business or moving, and caused the number of their employees to diminish, leaving former employees left making $0/hr, instead of the intended $15.
    5- Antifa, BLM, and similar groups have been emboldened, mostly by Trump haters, to commit violent acts and work towards the destruction of the Constitution and USA in general. Again, not something he personally bears responsibility or credit for, but anti-Trump forces certainly do.
    6- History, in the form of statues and other monuments, has been erased by anti-Trump forces, in a method not all that dissimilar from what the Taliban did to the Buddhist statues in the middle east. Once again, predictably, by anti-Trump forces, including the aforementioned Antifa and BLM.
    7- My cost of living was reduced because corporations were not required to collect as much in taxes from me.
    8- While I'm less able to speak much to this, decreased regulation has likely also reduced my cost of living.
    9- Before the world was struck by a mystery virus (which unfortunately we still don't know all that much about), unemployment amongst blacks and other minorities was at record lows. That didn't affect me personally, but it was a very good thing for many of my fellow Americans.
    10- Illegal immigration, while still a very large problem, has been curtailed by a good bit.
    11- Oh, yeah. Almost forgot. My taxes went down!
    12- Probably the most important, he saved us from 3 SCOTUS picks from HRC, which actually would have caused "grave damage" to the country, and not just for the four years she would have served in office, but for decades afterwards, as well. I really should have listed this first, but this list is "in no particular order", and I'm physically and mentally exhausted and not thinking at 100%.

    Which of those would you categorize as "grave damage"? Sure, the guy is an *******, at least he appears to be. He is a horrible public speaker, and puts his foot in his mouth on a regular basis. Someone should have taken his Twitter away from him back in 2016, if not sooner. Of the things he can rightfully be credited or blamed for, he's been pretty good for me personally.

    So do show us what we're missing, would 'ya?
     
  25. Golem

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    Congratulations. But only for the rich have they actually gone down. The rest of us will have to pay, not only for rich people's tax cuts, but also for the bread crumbs Trump threw our way.

    This, and the rest of you post is part of the "stupor" I was talking about.
     
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