America Does not have a violence or gun problem. America has a black problem

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  1. Daniel Light

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    Not rape. White men are responsible for disproportionate amount of rape. What are white people going to do about that?
    Not mass school shootings. White men are responsible for a disproportionate amount of mass school shootings. So I'm going to hold you personally responsible for all that.
     
  2. Daniel Light

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    Studies have shown that black American citizens have NOT received a proportional amount of said grants and loans.
    There have been large lawsuits that proved such was the case in the last decade. Not years past, but recently. I know it's fun for you to play the poor little victim - but the overall distribution of tax dollars just doesn't back up your little pity party.
     
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    "Raw capitalism" really is that bad. The socialism of equality can save us.
     
  4. ShadowX

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    I don’t believe your statistics on rape are accurate. But let’s one use one that is. White men are grossly overrepresented in regards to child molestation.

    I would have no problem whatsoever with creating more severe penalties for white men who were convicted of child molestation.
     
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    Sooo because blacks were illegally and unconstitutionality denied distribution of tax dollars... Now it’s okay to do the SAME exact thing to white people and codify it into law?

    Are you serious?
     
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    But white people aren't being denied tax dollars. They receive billions more. And I notice you didn't make a thread about white women receiving millions in grants for special programs for only women. You seem laser focused on black people. Why is that?
     
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    You like statistics. Look up the average sentence time given to black men as compared to white men for the same crime. Black men have always received harsher sentences. So what do you want to complain about now? What white people problems have kept you in the back of the bus?
     
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    YES we are being denied tax dollars. I JUST pointed to you very clearly where we are denied tax dollars.

    And you’re right not only are those programs blatantly racist but they’re also blatantly and explicitly sexist and those should end as well.
     
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    They receive longer sentences because of three mitigating factors.

    #1 they’re far more likely to commit a crime with a prior record resulting in more time.
    #2 they’re far more likely to commit a crime with a firearm.
    #3 they’re FAR less likely to hire a criminal attorney than their white counterparts.
     
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    A Bible bears witness to morality under truer forms of capitalism.
     
  11. ShadowX

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    Here let’s try it this way.

    Is discrimination based upon race constitutional or unconstitutional?

    And if it is unconstitutional then why the heck is it so hard to get you people to admit discrimination against white people based upon their race is also unconstitutional and needs to end?
     
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    Just because the economy is strong, doesn't mean inner city economy is strong.
    What jobs have been opened in this strong economy in the bigger inner cities?
    People need to be able to get to jobs if it's outside the community.
     
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    with the Best tax cut economics can do,

    why do we have any alleged, black problem.
     
  14. dairyair

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    So then, you admit it's not the color of the skin that's the problem.
    I agree.
    Now tell all the others that say it's a black problem.
     
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    Why is it a failure?
     
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    You don't think funding can help with security?
    If security is the issue, funding for security should be the 1st step.

    One has to get to the root of a problem before fixing it can occur.

    Yes, people who have come from the community should step up and help. But I'm sure it a rather monumental task and 1 or 2 or even 10 people can't attack it on their own.
    It's likely a full time job to accomplish this and get the ball rolling.
     
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    I don't know. I have not been involved.

    If money won't fix the issue, then is there a solution?
    If not, what do you think should be done? I know, lock them all up. You know, there's costs with housing and feeding them 24/7 also?
    But perhaps, lock them up, and make the prison a school? Or a branch of the military?
     
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    Then they need to move to where those jobs are.
     
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    Ok. But it is like saying the poor are criminals because of the rich
     
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  20. dairyair

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    A RW in another thread, just yesterday, was blasting GM for closing plants, but had thousands of jobs open in other parts of the country that they could take if they wanted to move.
    And said that is a bad option, for people don't just want to pick up and move.

    Yes, moving is an option. But it takes money to move. One needs to eat and live while looking for work outside their place of residence.
     
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    Because the number of people getting assistance is still as high as when the program started
     
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    Constitutional. Lots of discrimination is constitutional.

    But each case is decided individually
     
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    If I recall only about 10% of the workers were offered jobs somewhere else

    The rest are being let go
     
  24. dairyair

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    And the country has doubled in the last 50 yrs. So?
    New people grow up and graduate HS while older people die off.
     
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    The city I live in is experiencing record low black unemployment, below 6%, the lowest rates in the last 45 years. The jobs that have been opened- a huge Amazon distribution center($15/hour minimum wage- a very good wage in the midwest) and a huge growth of Fed Ex jobs at the airport(a $1.5 billion expansion).

    All that, and black homicide, home invasions, carjackings, etc... are still raging across the city.

    All the jobs in the world can't solve the problem of a deeply-ingrained culture of criminality.
     
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